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Old April 16th, 2017, 06:55 AM   #2881
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Pretty good 10min doco: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAd2vpy4TcU

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Thank you gentlemen for your descriptions, I thought that's what it was. It looks like a much larger version of UHF/VHF satellite transmit antennas I used to work on 35 years ago.

Looks much more elegant than the forest of TV and radio antennas on the hills of Manayunk in Philly where I grew up...
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Old April 16th, 2017, 07:36 AM   #2882
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SAN FRANCISCO | Salesforce Tower | 326m | 1070ft | 61 fl | T/O

the reason pure tourist oriented observation decks ( vs top floor public accessible eateries/bars/etc ) don't exist in SF towers incl Salesforce is that its developers know it would be a losing proposition - in a tourism town no less -for the simple reason that most all visitors here want to see all the beauty of the area from the natural high vantage points looking DOWN from OUTDOORS like historic Coit Tower atop Telegraph Hill , Twin Peaks in ctr of SF , the iconic view of the sun setting behind SF through the Golden Gate from high atop the pretty Berkeley hills in the East Bay or the similarly iconic views looking down to the Golden Gate Bridge and the SF skyline behind it from the dramatic Marin County Headlands or Mt Tamalpais to the north . I have never had any visitors in my 5 decades here wanting to go into a top floor eatery/bar to see a bunch of other skyscrapers jammed in around it . When I lived in pancake -flat Chicago ( with my favorite US skyline and still the architectural mother of the world ) for three years , we took all our eager visiting guests to atop the Sears and Hancock observation levels because that was/is the only way to get an elevated view and tourists have to and do that " pay to play " , as there is no alternative short of chartering a helicopter !
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Old April 17th, 2017, 03:57 AM   #2883
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Wouldn't it be cool if the builders surprised us all by saying that the top would be an observation deck, that would be an awesome surprise.
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Old April 17th, 2017, 12:38 PM   #2884
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Old April 17th, 2017, 08:11 PM   #2885
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the reason pure tourist oriented observation decks ( vs top floor public accessible eateries/bars/etc ) don't exist in SF towers incl Salesforce is that its developers know it would be a losing proposition - in a tourism town no less -for the simple reason that most all visitors here want to see all the beauty of the area from the natural high vantage points looking DOWN from OUTDOORS like historic Coit Tower atop Telegraph Hill , Twin Peaks in ctr of SF , the iconic view of the sun setting behind SF through the Golden Gate from high atop the pretty Berkeley hills in the East Bay or the similarly iconic views looking down to the Golden Gate Bridge and the SF skyline behind it from the dramatic Marin County Headlands or Mt Tamalpais to the north . I have never had any visitors in my 5 decades here wanting to go into a top floor eatery/bar to see a bunch of other skyscrapers jammed in around it . When I lived in pancake -flat Chicago ( with my favorite US skyline and still the architectural mother of the world ) for three years , we took all our eager visiting guests to atop the Sears and Hancock observation levels because that was/is the only way to get an elevated view and tourists have to and do that " pay to play " , as there is no alternative short of chartering a helicopter !
I disagree. It would still be unbelievable to go up there to catch the views from Salesforce Tower. I still will contend that they made a major mistake in not having a observation deck. Hong Kong, a city that has gorgeous views as well, has observation decks in a few of their tallest buildings. I think Hong Kong has the best skyline in the world.
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Old April 17th, 2017, 08:11 PM   #2886
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Wouldn't it be cool if the builders surprised us all by saying that the top would be an observation deck, that would be an awesome surprise.
Too bad it ain't going to happen. They already announce that the top floor is free for groups to hold events on weeknights or weekends.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 12:36 AM   #2887
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Observation decks have to be a part of initial planning. You don't just throw one one in at the last moment.

Public access, safety, and many other things--most of them regulated by the state--have to be considered.


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Old April 18th, 2017, 12:59 AM   #2888
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Observation decks have to be a part of initial planning. You don't just throw one one in at the last moment.

Public access, safety, and many other things--most of them regulated by the state--have to be considered.
But one of LA's tallest building has just added a observation deck a couple of years ago and that building opened in the 1980s.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 03:35 AM   #2889
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Hold on, I didn't say an observation deck *couldn't* be opened on an existing structure, I said there were a lot of considerations and compliance aspects. These are changes a brand new, still-under-construction building would not want to deal with for a variety of reasons.

Changes are often made to structures as time goes by, the US Bank deck being one such example. And keep in mind it often happens in reverse; look at how many decks used to exist that are now closed.


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Old April 18th, 2017, 04:20 AM   #2890
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Such a satisfying building to watch come together. Can't wait till they light it up.
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Well, can anyone tell me why the cladding went up so fast before? It was only about 3-4 days and the cladding on all four sides (at least 2 sides) of the building went shooting up like crazy. And, the normal speed was more like 3 times slower than that 3-4 days time, and the building had been progressing totally normally throughout the whole construction progress until now (except that 3-4 days).
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Well, can anyone tell me why the cladding shot up so quickly before? It was only 3-4 days time and the cladding went up like mad. Normal construction progress of the tower was more like 3 times slower than that. And the speed of this tower's construction was normal all the time except for those 3-4 days time in particular. The cladding, anyway, looks stunning! Hope it opens soon.

Now, am I allowed a bit off topic? I posted the same post (the first paragraph of this new one) and it disappeared immediately after I edited it. Can someone tell me why?
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Oh, the first post was just a bit slow.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 12:26 AM   #2894
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Old April 20th, 2017, 01:38 AM   #2895
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Even though the Salesforce Tower is taller, the Transamerica Pyramid still looks more imposing.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 05:34 AM   #2896
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From that one specific angle. Overall, Salesforce makes Transamerica look tiny.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 06:47 AM   #2898
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holy crapola, that's nice.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 09:28 AM   #2899
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Even though the Salesforce Tower is taller, the Transamerica Pyramid still looks more imposing.
lol...

that's only because the transamerica is closer in that picture. Salesforce is obviously much bigger, and dominates the skyline from many angles.
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Nice to see curved glass on the corners of a supertall.. Any close-up pictures of those round glass corners ? Also congrats for topping out.

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