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Old January 17th, 2013, 05:58 PM   #961
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I always thought that it looks identical in shape. But as far as I know that tower is designed by Kohn Pedersen Fox.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 06:02 PM   #962
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I actually like the top of this better than the Hong Kong tower.
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Old January 26th, 2013, 12:35 PM   #963
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Oh nooo the redesign!
The original design was so effortless and flowing from top to bottom, like a fluid form. Now it looks more like a standard skyscraper with a nice top added :-/
Me not like this.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 03:45 AM   #964
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The developers of the TransBay Tower are ready to turn over ~$192m for the devopement of the Tower. No start date yet but they probably won't sit on it too long.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/deve...completed-soon
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Old March 21st, 2013, 05:58 AM   #965
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I count ... 22 green box structures in this photo??
SF has one of the most boring skylines in the world.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 06:08 AM   #966
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Oh really?
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Old March 21st, 2013, 10:22 AM   #967
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I count ... 22 green box structures in this photo??
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SF has one of the most boring skylines in the world.
I'm pretty sure he meant the placeholders in the rendering. But I have a feeling you've already made up your mind about the skyline.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 11:56 AM   #968
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Yes. Other than Transamerica, it's all boring boxes. I happen to regard SF as the second best US city, but its skyline is very bland.


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Old March 21st, 2013, 04:46 PM   #969
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Looks bland enough to be japanese.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 05:17 PM   #970
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... outside the CBD (often empty), most of the us cities are bland... suburbs suburbs and suburbs ... japanese and european cities are crowded and complex... you should travel outside of your country
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Old March 21st, 2013, 08:05 PM   #971
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What makes you think he hasnt travelled? Have you been outside of your country? To make judgement out of ignorance is one of the most foolish things a person can do.
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Old March 22nd, 2013, 04:29 AM   #972
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Looks bland enough to be japanese.
Probably similar reason actually. Both are in high risk seismic areas, and when the buildings have to be built really strong, it limits the designs a little bit, due to cost probably.
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Old March 22nd, 2013, 04:30 AM   #973
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I'm pretty sure he meant the placeholders in the rendering. But I have a feeling you've already made up your mind about the skyline.
I did mean the placeholders, thanks.
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Old March 22nd, 2013, 10:53 PM   #974
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It could be a far worse skyline, like some whacky pomo disneyland like Shanghai or Moscow
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 12:47 AM   #975
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SF has one of the most boring skylines in the world.
San Francisco gets beat out by Phoenix, easily, as the most boring skyline IMHO.



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Old March 27th, 2013, 02:27 AM   #976
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There are tons of skylines that are more boring than SF's....and most people would disagree that it's boring anyways. There are a lot of bland boxes, yes, but there are some nice towers too. But whatever your opinion is on how boring/interesting it is, it does have one of the largest skylines in the US.

And back on the topic of the Transbay tower:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bos...cel-2013-03-26
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Boston Properties and Hines Close on Record Land Sale for Transbay Transit Tower Parcel
Ceremonial Groundbreaking of the West Coast's Tallest Tower Scheduled

BOSTON, Mar 26, 2013 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Hines and Boston Properties BXP +0.42% announced today that it will ceremonially break ground to celebrate the acquisition of 101 First Street, a land parcel sold by Transbay Joint Powers Authority (TJPA) for approximately $192 million. The sale of the 50,000-square-foot parcel closed today at nearly $4,000 per land foot. The firms are now set to develop the Transbay Transit Tower, a new Pelli Clarke Pelli-designed icon adjacent to the Transbay Transit Center, a multi-modal transportation hub and the new heart of the revitalized South of Market San Francisco neighborhood. It was also announced that a partnership of Clark Construction and Hathaway Dinwiddie will serve as general contractors for the soaring, 60-story office building at Mission and First streets.

At 1,070 feet, the tower is set to be the tallest on the United States' West Coast and the seventh tallest in the U.S., edging out New York's Chrysler Building. The project was initiated in 2007 and received planning approval in October of 2012. Construction of the 1.4 million-square-foot tower could begin as early as summer 2013 with project completion in 2016, just before the opening of the new transit facility...
Finally we're closing in on the start of construction. It won't be the tallest on the west coast for long though, depending on when Wilshire Grand in LA is finished.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 02:30 AM   #977
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Wilshire Grand won't even be the tallest in LA. Not really.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 02:33 AM   #978
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I agree that the skyline is great because actuallt SF isn't that big, I believe it's as populated as Amsterdam here. And nothing wrong with losing from LA.



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Old March 27th, 2013, 02:43 AM   #979
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SF has one of the most boring skylines in the world.
That is true of the BUILT skyline which is caused by the stupid Planning Department policy of imposing height limits everywhere, meaning that people build to the limit and cut it off square. The PD also claims to want "slim, tapered" towers but their policies encourage the exact opposite.

But San Francisco has a natural skyline as well and another Planning Department policy makes the most of it by encouraging taller buildings on the hills so as to exaggerate the natural terrain. If you include natural terrain features and their manmade enhancements like Coit Tower, Mt. Sutro and its TV Tower, Russian Hill with the residential buildings atop it and now Rincon Hill with its developing high rise cluster, the SF skyline is much less boring, very much less.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 02:48 AM   #980
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Finally we're closing in on the start of construction. It won't be the tallest on the west coast for long though, depending on when Wilshire Grand in LA is finished.
I doubt that it will start soon because I doubt any developer will start this building without an anchor tenant lined up and, with Salesforce.com leasing all of 350 Mission, I don't know who's left wanting this much (or even a significant part of this much) space.

Actually, my guess is that Boston Properties will announce they are changing the building from all office to a mix of office, possibly a hotel and some condos. There's room for a hotel in this area and there's room for condos anywhere in the city. That would reduce the available office space to something more usual in a new building in San Francisco.
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