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Old March 28th, 2014, 03:02 PM   #1181
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Old March 28th, 2014, 03:08 PM   #1182
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Welcome. SF deserves a supertall
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Old March 28th, 2014, 09:43 PM   #1183
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Two megatalls u/c in California!
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Old March 28th, 2014, 11:44 PM   #1184
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Supertalls.

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Old March 28th, 2014, 11:52 PM   #1185
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Yeah, really, supertall.
Although I wouldn't mind if there were two megatalls u/c.
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Old March 29th, 2014, 12:06 AM   #1186
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Well, up to the ground level at least (can a "supertall" be 1 inch tall?):

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Boston Properties Management Discusses Q4 2013 Results - Earnings Call Transcript
Jan. 29, 2014

. . . The subgrade work at Transbay is progressing and our marketing program is in full swing. We are in active discussions with a number of tenants and could deliver the building in late '16 or early '17 based on our current schedule. But we have not made a decision yet to move forward on the structure out of the ground . . . .
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1978...nscript?page=7

This is their latest known word on the subject. If anybody has news of any further decision, please post it.
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Old March 29th, 2014, 01:17 AM   #1187
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Well, up to the ground level at least (can a "supertall" be 1 inch tall?):
Yes, if they are building up out of the hole. It's UC yeah
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Old March 29th, 2014, 02:23 AM   #1188
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I have classes in the financial district on the weekends which enables me to drive through the area of SOMA and Rincon Hill... The amount of construction is astounding! By this time next year we should be well above grade with what? 6-8 450 ft+ towers plus the Transbay Terminal? It is hard to keep track of all of the new towers beginning their rise and all of the construction cranes everywhere. Suffice to say the San Francisco skyline is going to look radically different come 2017-2018.

Transbay Tower does appear to be under construction judging by the amount of activity and equipment on the site. Last weekend there were a line of cement trucks pouring caissons I believe? The construction site has been completely transformed in the last few months... I feel it appropriate for this to be classified as U/C.
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Old March 29th, 2014, 07:49 AM   #1189
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I fear for the familiarity of the SF skyline.
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Old March 29th, 2014, 10:46 AM   #1190
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By this time next year we should be well above grade with what? 6-8 450 ft+ towers plus the Transbay Terminal? It is hard to keep track of all of the new towers beginning their rise and all of the construction cranes everywhere. Suffice to say the San Francisco skyline is going to look radically different come 2017-2018.
Counting everything above 300 ft, I count 10:

ORH Tower 2
45 Lansing
399 Fremont
299 Fremont
Lumina (20 Folsom--2 towers)
222 Second
181 Fremont
350 Mission
535 Mission

With a good chance that by this time next year 2 more will get underway:

Transbay Block 9
340 Fremont

And an outside chance for a couple of others:

1 Van Ness
524 Howard
706 Mission
325 Fremont

Finally, there are couple more under design and not yet entitled (so unlikely to get going for a couple of years):

Transbay Blocks 5 and 8
10 S. Van Ness
50 1st St

That's total of 20 within a few years!

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Transbay Tower does appear to be under construction judging by the amount of activity and equipment on the site. Last weekend there were a line of cement trucks pouring caissons I believe? The construction site has been completely transformed in the last few months... I feel it appropriate for this to be classified as U/C.
It IS under construction to the level of the ground--that is, the entire foundation. Hopefully (and quite probably) by the time the foundations are ready, an anchor tenant will be signed and Boston Properties will have given the go-ahead for the rest. And since it's structural steel, it should go up relatively quickly from the ground up. Just about everybody now expects it will be finished at the same time the terminal is in 2017.
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Old March 30th, 2014, 08:56 PM   #1191
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Well it looks like a giant tube to me n what sucks is that it alot taller then wilshire grand tower from ground to the roof, wilshire grand shouldove been that height plus the spire :p. But owell I guess! Nim not hating is just that L.A should be the the better place for new high rise taller buildings! Just my opinion!!
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Old March 30th, 2014, 09:44 PM   #1192
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Just your opinion so I'll write it off as another mistaken bit of nonsense from the Southland based on nothing in particular (as is often the case).

I would have chosen one of the other 2 options for the design of the TransBay, but downtown San Francisco is the perfect place for a new West Coast supertall and this one will do. And if it's taller than Wilshire Grand, then God's in his heaven and all's right with the world.
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Old March 30th, 2014, 09:54 PM   #1193
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congratulations san francisco...
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Old March 30th, 2014, 11:02 PM   #1194
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Well it looks like a giant tube to me n what sucks is that it alot taller then wilshire grand tower from ground to the roof, wilshire grand shouldove been that height plus the spire :p. But owell I guess! Nim not hating is just that L.A should be the the better place for new high rise taller buildings! Just my opinion!!
To the top of its crown this building is 86 feet higher than Wilshire, that is not even close to "a lot taller"

They're both great buildings and wonderful additions to Cali and the American west.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 12:01 PM   #1195
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wow is this actually happening?! as a bay area native, this is incredible to see. im holding my breath for the time being. fingers crossed everything goes according to plan!!!
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Old March 31st, 2014, 10:08 PM   #1196
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Awesome to see this one in u/c too. After all, they have still a lot of work to do until 2258, but I'm confident that 244 years will be enough time

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Old April 1st, 2014, 01:50 AM   #1197
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To the top of its crown this building is 86 feet higher than Wilshire, that is not even close to "a lot taller"

They're both great buildings and wonderful additions to Cali and the American west.
WG will be taller to roof height and architectural height. FYI
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WG will be taller to roof height and architectural height. FYI
Wilshire Grand is 934' to the roof/top floor and 984 to the crown while this is 945 to the roof (mistakenly 920' on skyscraperpage diagrams) and 1070 to the top of the crown (which I consider a roof)

If it looks like a solid 1070 foot building than that's where the roof is, it doesn't matter if it's a crown or not. Look at BOA tower in NYC or even 1WTC
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Wilshire Grand is 934' to the roof/top floor and 984 to the crown while this is 945 to the roof (mistakenly 920' on skyscraperpage diagrams) and 1070 to the top of the crown (which I consider a roof)

If it looks like a solid 1070 foot building than that's where the roof is, it doesn't matter if it's a crown or not. Look at BOA tower in NYC or even 1WTC
to be a roof it must be a enclosed surface from one side of the tower to the other side of the tower, TBT's parapet is "tube-like", meaning that it is hollow, with 200 feet of glass panels arching up on all 4 sides of the tower.
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Transbay Tower will look like a 1070' tower whereas Wilshire Grand will look like a 984' tower with a long toothpick on top.
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