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Old February 27th, 2016, 04:48 AM   #1761
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the city's limited space—along, of course, with extensive regulation and other factors—make it a tough place to build.
The city will move higher in 4-6 floor steps I think. In 15 years or so many of the 4 - 9 floor buildings now going up outside the high rise district will be rezoned to 8-12 or 8-15 floors and the structures we are now building will be torn down and replaced (or, when possible, added to).

We already have the precedent of the "affordable housing bonus":

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The program could allow some buildings to grow by up to three stories higher than current zoning allows. Developers have been urged to consider pushing higher on some proposed projects . . . . The program, if approved, could result in 16,000 new units of housing across the city in the next 20 years. Of those, 5,000 would be permanent, income-restricted units; 2,000 for very low, low and moderate income households; and 3,000 for middle-income households. Current zoning is likely to create fewer than 1,000 affordable units (and less than 7,500 units overall), according to the city planning department. The program would only apply to new construction and could not be used to add new stories on existing structures beyond their current zoned height. It also may be amended to keep any project that demolishes existing rent-controlled housing from gaining any height bonus . . . .
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Old February 27th, 2016, 06:47 AM   #1762
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That is what I like to see in supply-constrained markets like San Francisco: a realization on the planners' side that the current housing situation is literally strangling the city.

I always both laugh and cringe at people, particularly residents, of big cities who like to try to keep their cities how they are. It really leaves one no choice but to think that people lucky enough to live in such vibrant, energetic locales simply have no understanding of where they live.

Sorry, I'm really not intending to O/T troll this thread, but as a person confined to the outskirts of the U.S.' other major supply-constrained residential market, it's just too satisfying to see positive change happen somewhere. Much though I can sympathize with gentrification opponents, they really ought to see that development is not the issue, but rather the lack of consideration for residents within the developmental mindset, an issue that motions like the one you've mentioned above help put to rest, and ought to (at least better) align city residents' sentiment with their real interests.

Now, where's that mallet? I've got some sense to smash into Boston.
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Old February 29th, 2016, 02:38 AM   #1763
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it's really good add one for San Franscisco
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Old February 29th, 2016, 04:00 AM   #1764
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Now, where's that mallet? I've got some sense to smash into Boston.
Boston has to relocate Logan Airport if they're going to fix their real estate problems effectively.

As long as Logan is that close to downtown, the FAA won't ever let proper skyscrapers be built in the city.

(Yes I realize that's off topic for Salesforce Tower)
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Old February 29th, 2016, 10:49 AM   #1765
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Old March 1st, 2016, 08:41 AM   #1766
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Old March 1st, 2016, 08:43 AM   #1767
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Compare to 3 weeks ago. It may seem slow but they ARE making progress:

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Old March 1st, 2016, 08:59 AM   #1768
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I just scanned back through the Wilshire Grand thread and it seems as if it took about 18 months to go from the stage where the Salesforce Tower is now to being about topped out. That would mean topping out this one in the early autumn of 2017. While that seems a little behind the schedule some of you have read, it's not too far from what I have been reading for several years: completion by the end of 2017. But this project could go a little faster now--it's a smaller floorplate than WG.
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Old March 2nd, 2016, 12:52 PM   #1769
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I have heard that they are going to complete 2 floors per week and work on it nonstop and it being topped out by the end of this year and completely finished in 2017. They are still saying that. I find it hard to believe that they will top out by the end of this year.
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I just scanned back through the Wilshire Grand thread and it seems as if it took about 18 months to go from the stage where the Salesforce Tower is now to being about topped out. That would mean topping out this one in the early autumn of 2017. While that seems a little behind the schedule some of you have read, it's not too far from what I have been reading for several years: completion by the end of 2017. But this project could go a little faster now--it's a smaller floorplate than WG.

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Old March 4th, 2016, 11:30 AM   #1770
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Old March 5th, 2016, 10:48 AM   #1771
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That seems to show very nicely how the movable form system is raised (it is higher on one side, having already been raised, than on the other).

I was watching the construction cam today and even thought the weather in SF looked terrible, it appeared they were pumping concrete into the forms on the Fremont St. side (this photo shows the Mission and 1st St sides).
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Old March 5th, 2016, 04:30 PM   #1772
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We are still only seeing the massive concrete core, correct? I've never seen so much rebar.
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Old March 5th, 2016, 05:36 PM   #1773
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We are still only seeing the massive concrete core, correct? I've never seen so much rebar.
Indeed, so much for an earthquake prone area.
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Old March 5th, 2016, 07:14 PM   #1774
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We are still only seeing the massive concrete core, correct? I've never seen so much rebar.
Yes--just the core above ground but views into the hole show something (besides the tubular bracing for the retaining walls):






http://www.salesforcetower.com/cam
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Old March 5th, 2016, 07:29 PM   #1775
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Old March 6th, 2016, 03:55 AM   #1776
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I saw they having concrete pouring in this project today, but today it's rainy, so can anyone tell me that does the rain affect the concrete pouring?
Thanks!!

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How high the building will be how high the core is, right? I'm a little confused. I don't much about construction.
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Old March 8th, 2016, 11:13 AM   #1778
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Old March 8th, 2016, 02:39 PM   #1779
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