[Croatia] - Pelješac Bridge

[x-type]

of course! closing was so stupid: discussion would continue on cro motorways and we escaped from there. and there was no politics or some arguments for closing

[edolen1]

The thing is the discussion here and in the Motorways thread is bound to repeat itself.

[x-type]

maybe you've been erasing s'thing i haven't sen, but now discussion is doing fine as far as i see

[edolen1]

I didn't erase anything, but anyway, let's get back to the topic.

[Mostarac]

Kako se zove ona stranica od autoputeva hrvatske???

[OettingerCroat]

http://www.hac.hr

samo koliko se do sada zna, ovo je projekt hrvatskih CESTA, ne autocesta. ali i to se može brzo promjenuti.

[x-type]

nadajmo se da će se promijenot jer ako ostane pod HC-om, onda neće dugo trajat

[AstroBoy]

Thanks Edolen for re-opening this thread.

[gospodarz]

Originally Posted by AstroBoy

Here are details in English:

The Pelješac Bridge will 2.3 kilometers long and 20 meters across, it will be four lanes wide

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No emergency lane? no separate lane for bicycles?

[x-type]

Originally Posted by gospodarz

No emergency lane? no separate lane for bicycles?

the bridge is going to be a part of fast road (reserved only for vehicles with engines), so no need for bicycle lanes. and emergency lane - it's not a part of motorway, although it is allways nice to have it. probably there will be few emergency stops.

[Totoro]

Glavne gradske ulice bi po pravilima trebale biti široke 3,25 m. Na autocesti je najmanja propisana širina 3,6 m. To će reći da most može komforno imati 2 trake pune širine u oba smjera, s još prilično prostora za središnji odjelni zid, kao i bočne zidove. nek je svaki uzme i po jedan metar širine, još tu ima prostora teoretski i za jednu traku za pješake. Osobno, ja bi ju stavio u sredinu mosta, al budemo vidjeli... Za zaustavne trake nema mjesta, osim ako će same vozne trake biti uže od propisa, recimo na nivou gradskih. Doduše, i tako bi zaustavne trake bile tek nekih 2,5 m široke.

Ima li ikakvih planova dovest željeznicu do dubrovnika? ako se planira u slijedećih 15-30 godina, zaista će biti šteta što most neće biti projektiran makar za samo jedan jedini kolosjek. (pa nek vlakovi čekaju pred mostom ako ne može drugačije) Mislim da dodatnih 500tinjak tona ne bi smio biti problem takvoj grdosiji od konstrukcije, čan ni na sredini najdužeg ovješenog dijela mosta. na kraju krajeva, mogu se napraviti i mali ranžirni kolodvori s obje strane moste, gdje bi se preveliki vlakovi cijepali u manje za potrebe prelaska mosta. ionako nije da bi baš svakih 10 min prolazio vlak.

[nikolas]

Pa taj most sirine 20 m je dovoljan za gradnju autoceste. Most Humber u ENgleskoj ima sirinu od 22 m, ali sa dodanim pjesackim prijelazom.
Sto se tice zeljeznice, to je super ideja, ali mi nije poznato da ima takvih planova zasad.
Zeljeznica bi se mogla i jednostavno provesti preko Neuma. To je lakse, jer ako nema stanica, ni zaustavljanja, provoz je jednostavna stvar. Postoji tzv. Durchfahrtszug u Austriji koji ide od Salzburga do Innsbrucka bez zaustavljanja preko 90 km njemackog teritorija, a smatra se austrijskim, a ne medjunarodnim vlakom, jer se u Njemackoj nitko ne moze ukrcati ni iskrcati.

[nikolas]

KOliko mi je poznato HZ ima planove za takvo nesto, no to zasada ovisi o Crnoj Gori, odnosno, koliko ce oni biti zainteresirani.
SRETNA NOVA 2007
Vidi ovdje:
http://www.jutarnji.hr/dalmacijaioto...split,44957.jl

[tonycro]

Cisto sumljam da bu ikad prema dole zeljeznica, mislim da ce se puno vise razvijati zracni promet!

Naravno , prioriteti su trenutno na cestovnom , a ovaj most samo pridonosi boljitku i razvoju tog dosta zapustenog i ruralnog kraja.

[nikolas]

[marsdenk]

Originally Posted by AstroBoy

Here are details in English:

The Pelješac Bridge will 2.3 kilometers long and 20 meters across, it will be four lanes wide

The central aspect of the bridge are 2 pylons rising 170m above sea level or 115m above the roadway. Therefore the central part of the bridge will be cable suspended.

The deck will sit 55m above sea level as agreed with Bosnia.

There will be another 10 supporting piers in its construction along with the two huge pylons.

It is expected construction will take 3-4 years at a projected cost of 200-220 million euros.

The distance between the two central 170m tall pylons is 568m making this the second widest suspension bridge in Europe!

Construction starts next year, therefore in the summer of 2007!

Why was it only 55 metres above the sea level? I read that the sea level will rise some 14 metres in the next few decades, due to the melting of the ice in the poles and the Adriatic won't be en exception. That leaves only 41 metres give or take above the sea level. I think they should go as high as 69 metres, just in case.

[edolen1]

Originally Posted by marsdenk

Why was it only 55 metres above the sea level? I read that the sea level will rise some 14 metres in the next few decades, due to the melting of the ice in the poles and the Adriatic won't be en exception. That leaves only 41 metres give or take above the sea level. I think they should go as high as 69 metres, just in case.

Lol

[Ballota]

Dobraaaaa....

[antenor]

just u wait.. what is the necessary height of Pelješac bridge deck anyway?

[OettingerCroat]

55m