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Old January 8th, 2014, 11:36 PM   #2121
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Why do they pull also the electric (DC only) loco, on a not yet electrified line? Should the line be 25 kV AC, shouldn't?
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Old January 9th, 2014, 04:05 AM   #2122
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Why do they pull also the electric (DC only) loco, on a not yet electrified line? Should the line be 25 kV AC, shouldn't?
It´s a historical train, it should be going to Salamanca for some purpose.
Besides the diesel class 334, the rest of the train is no longer used by Renfe for commercial service.

And yes, the line will be electrified at 25 kV AC.
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Old January 9th, 2014, 11:07 PM   #2123
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Santiago-Vigo line.

River Ulla viaduct.

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Santiago-Vigo line.

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Old January 10th, 2014, 12:18 AM   #2126
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Medina del Campo-Salamanca-Fuentes de Oñoro/Vilar Formoso line.

Electrification works between Medina del Campo and Salamanca, poles already standing.

Campillo station and surroudings.

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Old January 10th, 2014, 12:51 AM   #2127
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Can the S-253 be converted to dual voltage so as to use this line? I know that some S-252 can run under DC and some under AC, but are there machines still able to use both? I suppose some were, when the Madrid-Seville HSL was partially electrified in DC at the termini.

As for the other modern Spanish electric loco, the Bitrac, I'm sure it is only DC and diesel.
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Old January 10th, 2014, 01:04 AM   #2128
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Can the S-253 be converted to dual voltage so as to use this line? I know that some S-252 can run under DC and some under AC, but are there machines still able to use both? I suppose some were, when the Madrid-Seville HSL was partially electrified in DC at the termini.

As for the other modern Spanish electric loco, the Bitrac, I'm sure it is only DC and diesel.
I think that class 253 are only for 3 kV, but they have the 25 kV preinstalled so it could be easier to change, given the case.
Same goes for the gauge. All trains younger than class 447 EMUs have the preinstallation for gauge change, if I remember correctly.
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I have a question: when was the last revenue regular service pulled by steam locos in Spain finally withdrawn?
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I have a question: when was the last revenue regular service pulled by steam locos in Spain finally withdrawn?
In 1975 for the Iberian gauge, i think it was some train finishing at Vicálvaro station in Madrid.
In the 1980s for the metric gauge, on the Ponferrada-Villablino line.
I´m talking about the last regular freight trains.

I don´t know about passengers.
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Santiago-Vigo line.
Vigo-Urzáiz station (under reconstruction).


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In 1975 for the Iberian gauge, i think it was some train finishing at Vicálvaro station in Madrid.
In the 1980s for the metric gauge, on the Ponferrada-Villablino line.
I´m talking about the last regular freight trains.

I don´t know about passengers.
To my best knowledge, it was current king (still prince in 1975) who turned off the last loco then.
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Tarragona station.

A class 449 EMU (an unusual sight in Tarragona) on a Regional Express Reus-Barcelona Estació de França:

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Old January 12th, 2014, 02:35 PM   #2134
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When were the building works for Vigo station started?
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When were the building works for Vigo station started?
Not so long ago... if you check the thread, you´ll find lots of not-so-old photos that will allow you to tell.
I can´t tell you the exact date, but it started like two years ago.
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Valladolid freight ring line (under construction).

This line is supposed to be an outer ring through the east of Valladolid, so as freight trains don´t need to cross Valladolid-Campo Grande station.
It will be in Iberian gauge, and it seems it will be connected to the part of the old Valladolid-Ariza line that´s still open and leads to the Renault car factory.
It will also be connected to the new Valladolid central workshop.

For now, only the northern part (connection towards France and Northern Spain) of the line is being built, since there´s no money for the southern half (connection towards Portugal, Southern Spain and Madrid), since its funding was supposed to come from the money made after selling the land of the current Valladolid-Campo Grande central workshop to build a new housing development. But that money doesn´t come.

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Medina del Campo-Salamanca-Fuentes de Oñoro/Vilar Formoso line.

Aldehuela de la Bóveda station.

This station is located between Salamanca and Fuentes de Oñoro/Vilar Formoso (Portugal).
It doesn´t get any passenger anymore.
Electrification in this sector has not started yet.

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Barcelona-Granollers-Girona-Portbou/Cerbère classic line.
Between Girona and Celrà stations.

Diesel loco 333.407 pulling a steam engine.

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Monforte de Lemos-Lugo-Betanzos-Corunna classic line.
Section Monforte de Lemos-Lugo.

Pictures of the upgrade at Puebla de San Julian.
The new upgraded route is supposed to save a few minutes and eight level crossings.
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Bilbao-San Sebastian narrow gauge line.

An old video from September 2012 of the future Ermua station.
Works are halted.

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