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Old May 19th, 2007, 06:58 PM   #201
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Beautiful! Thanks for the pics!
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Old May 20th, 2007, 12:24 PM   #202
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A great pic from Sanlucar-Playa:
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De la vía 5 de Camp de Tarragona sale el tren 09888 con destino Madrid, formado por las ramas 04 y 16 de le serie 102. En la vía 4 vemos la rama 07 de la serie 103, y en el aire un avión que en breves instantes aterrizará en el cercano aeropuerto de Reus.



El tren tardaría 26 minutos en llegar a Lérida. Para acceder a la autopista AP-7 (9,8 Km aproximadamente) necesité 40 minutos.
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Old June 4th, 2007, 11:38 PM   #203
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A few videos by my self: all of these videos are recordered in the HSL Madrid-Barcelona, between Zaragoza Delicias Station and Lleida Pirineus Station.

Renfe ALVIA:







Renfe AVE Alta Velocidad Española: (Spanish High Speed)








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Old June 22nd, 2007, 05:36 PM   #204
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This morning at 6:30 the first Siemens velaro (renfe Ave S103) did the first commercial service between Madrid-Zaragoza-Camp de Tarragona.

Maybe in the next days we will have some photos about this beautiful train.
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 05:45 PM   #205
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En España, en el pasado mes de abril, con un tren serie 102 en doble y circulando a la velocidad máxima de 300 km/h se hizo el recorrido de Madrid Puerta de Atocha a Camp de Tarragona (por los by passes) en 1 hora y 57 minutos sin rebasar las velocidades máximas lo que supone una media de 267,12 km/h. El tiempo con que se prevé empezar la explotación de la línea de Madrid a Barcelona para los trenes sin paradas (y de momento a velocidad máxima de 300 km/h) es de 2 horas y 35 minutos es decir, a una media de 240,4 km/h.

El récord de los franceses está en:

263,3 km/h de media entre Lyon y St Exupéry que hay 289.6 kms, con topes de 320 km/h en 2005.


Por lo tanto es NUEVO RECORD MUNDIAL. Y encima con más mérito, sólo 300 km/h y durante 572 kms!!!

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In Spain, in the last April, with a train series 102 in double composition and circulating to the maximum speed of 300 km/h did the travel between Madrid-Puerta de Atocha to Campo de Tarragona (for the by passes) in 1 hour and 57 minutes without the maximum speeds exceeded what supposes an average of 267,12 km/h. The time with which it is foreseen to begin the explotation(development) of the line of Madrid to Barcelona for the trains without stops (and at the moment to maximum speed of 300 km/h) is 2 hours and 35 minutes is to say, to an average of 240,4 km/h.
The record of the French rail is in:

263,3 km/h of average between(among) Lyons and St Exupéry that there are 289.6 kms, with ceilings of 320 km/h in 2005.


Therefore it is A NEW WORLD RECORD. And above with more merit, only 300 km/h and during 572 kms!!!


I don't know if it's correct, please, change some words if are incorrect
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 05:50 PM   #206
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Mañana, como ya sabeis, se estrenan los 103 en tres servicios por sentido entre Madrid y Camp de Tarragona, y para comprobar que todo funciona a la perfección, se han ido realizando varios viajes de pruebas durante las últimas semanas.

En dos de estos viajes ha ido personal de Renfe y Adif como viajeros y en uno de ellos, concretamente el pasado miércoles, tuve la oportunidad de viajar, por lo que os adjunto unas fotillos de dicho viaje de presentación. ¡Que las disfruteis!

Un saludo,
Javier Peña


Foto 1: 103.007 entrando en Zaragoza-Delicias.


Foto 2: 103.007 recién llegado a la estación de Camp de Tarragona.


Fotos 3 y 4: Diversas fotos del 103.007 en Camp.




Foto 5: Foto de familia.


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Fotos del interior del tren:

Clase Club:


Clase Preferente:


Clase Turista:


Cafetería:


Thank you javi!!!
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 06:47 PM   #207
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sdf11, Thanks! Great news, especially that new record! I've read comments about it in the spanish forum, but who is ths source and is it trustworthy?
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sdf11, gracias! Geniales noticias, especialmente el nuevo record. He leído posts en el foro español acerca de ello pero no se ha dicho quien es la fuente de la informición. ¿Renfe?, ¿La misma ADIF?. Si el record es cierto, no dudes en ponerlo en el hilo de records que andará por ahí perdido en este mismo foro.
EDITO: Éste es el enlace a dicho hilo. Rail Records
Ya de paso añado esta pedazo de foto que he encontrado curioseando por aquí.

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Old June 22nd, 2007, 06:59 PM   #208
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En España, en el pasado mes de abril, con un tren serie 102 en doble y circulando a la velocidad máxima de 300 km/h se hizo el recorrido de Madrid Puerta de Atocha a Camp de Tarragona (por los by passes) en 1 hora y 57 minutos sin rebasar las velocidades máximas lo que supone una media de 267,12 km/h. El tiempo con que se prevé empezar la explotación de la línea de Madrid a Barcelona para los trenes sin paradas (y de momento a velocidad máxima de 300 km/h) es de 2 horas y 35 minutos es decir, a una media de 240,4 km/h.

El récord de los franceses está en:

263,3 km/h de media entre Lyon y St Exupéry que hay 289.6 kms, con topes de 320 km/h en 2005.


Por lo tanto es NUEVO RECORD MUNDIAL. Y encima con más mérito, sólo 300 km/h y durante 572 kms!!!

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In Spain, in the last April, with a train series 102 in double composition and circulating to the maximum speed of 300 km/h did the travel between Madrid-Puerta de Atocha to Campo de Tarragona (for the by passes) in 1 hour and 57 minutes without the maximum speeds exceeded what supposes an average of 267,12 km/h. The time with which it is foreseen to begin the explotation(development) of the line of Madrid to Barcelona for the trains without stops (and at the moment to maximum speed of 300 km/h) is 2 hours and 35 minutes is to say, to an average of 240,4 km/h.
The record of the French rail is in:

263,3 km/h of average between(among) Lyons and St Exupéry that there are 289.6 kms, with ceilings of 320 km/h in 2005.


Therefore it is A NEW WORLD RECORD. And above with more merit, only 300 km/h and during 572 kms!!!


I don't know if it's correct, please, change some words if are incorrect
Great news!!
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 04:40 PM   #209
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This post by Tintin is really interesting. I recommend that you have a look. It's full of aerial pictures of the HSL Madrid-Valladolid.

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En España, en el pasado mes de abril, con un tren serie 102 en doble y circulando a la velocidad máxima de 300 km/h se hizo el recorrido de Madrid Puerta de Atocha a Camp de Tarragona (por los by passes) en 1 hora y 57 minutos sin rebasar las velocidades máximas lo que supone una media de 267,12 km/h. El tiempo con que se prevé empezar la explotación de la línea de Madrid a Barcelona para los trenes sin paradas (y de momento a velocidad máxima de 300 km/h) es de 2 horas y 35 minutos es decir, a una media de 240,4 km/h.

El récord de los franceses está en:

263,3 km/h de media entre Lyon y St Exupéry que hay 289.6 kms, con topes de 320 km/h en 2005.


Por lo tanto es NUEVO RECORD MUNDIAL. Y encima con más mérito, sólo 300 km/h y durante 572 kms!!!

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In Spain, in the last April, with a train series 102 in double composition and circulating to the maximum speed of 300 km/h did the travel between Madrid-Puerta de Atocha to Campo de Tarragona (for the by passes) in 1 hour and 57 minutes without the maximum speeds exceeded what supposes an average of 267,12 km/h. The time with which it is foreseen to begin the explotation(development) of the line of Madrid to Barcelona for the trains without stops (and at the moment to maximum speed of 300 km/h) is 2 hours and 35 minutes is to say, to an average of 240,4 km/h.
The record of the French rail is in:

263,3 km/h of average between(among) Lyons and St Exupéry that there are 289.6 kms, with ceilings of 320 km/h in 2005.


Therefore it is A NEW WORLD RECORD. And above with more merit, only 300 km/h and during 572 kms!!!


I don't know if it's correct, please, change some words if are incorrect

I'm not sure, but I think it isn't correct. A TGV unit has the record of average speed over long distance between Calais and Marseille (1067,2 km) in 3h 29min (an average speed of 306,4 kph).
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Old July 5th, 2007, 04:10 AM   #211
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2h 35min for Madrid-Barcelona is ok but it's alot slower than the original goal of 2h. Wonder if it will be able to compete with air traffic, though the market i huge with 5 million pax.
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Old July 5th, 2007, 10:49 AM   #212
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The original target set by Renfe was 2h30 minutes. With ERTMS II working at full capacity (mid/late 2008) trips could be reduced to just short of 2h15.

Nevertheless, as sdf11 said before, trips below the 150-minute barrier could be easily achieved even with a commercial speed of 300 kph.
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Old July 5th, 2007, 05:13 PM   #213
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2h 35min for Madrid-Barcelona is ok but it's alot slower than the original goal of 2h. Wonder if it will be able to compete with air traffic, though the market i huge with 5 million pax.
i'm sure the train with 2h35min is more than able to compete with planes. u have to remember, that travelling by plane u have to be at the airport at least about one hour befort start and then u have to make a little trip from city center to airport, what takes another 'few minutes'. even after arriving there is another trip from airport to the city. so every journey made by plane takes some 2 h of additional time to the real travel time. and trains usually have their stations in the city center without wasting your time for checking in and long security control /even if in Spain the fast trains have somthing like security check befor boarding/

i think it's a good move to built the Madrid-Barcelona HST line.
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i'm sure the train with 2h35min is more than able to compete with planes. u have to remember, that travelling by plane u have to be at the airport at least about one hour befort start and then u have to make a little trip from city center to airport, what takes another 'few minutes'. even after arriving there is another trip from airport to the city. so every journey made by plane takes some 2 h of additional time to the real travel time. and trains usually have their stations in the city center without wasting your time for checking in and long security control /even if in Spain the fast trains have somthing like security check befor boarding/

i think it's a good move to built the Madrid-Barcelona HST line.
In the shuttle service (puente aéreo) between Madrid and Barcelona you don't need to be at the airport one hour before.

Anyway, it would be competitive and Iberia will have to reduce the prices.
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Old August 8th, 2007, 12:47 PM   #215
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Madrid-Barcelona high-speed rail link to open in December: PM

BARCELONA, Spain, Aug 2, 2007 (AFP) - A high-speed rail link between Madrid and Barcelona, Spain's second-largest city, will open on December 21, Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero said Thursday.

"The works are developing at a good rhythm," he told reporters during a visit to Barcelona.

The high-speed line already connects the Spanish capital to Camp de Tarragona with crews now working to complete the last leg of the line to Barcelona in northeastern Spain.

The opening of the final leg will cut journey times from Madrid to Barcelona from just over four hours to 2.5 hours.

There are over 900 flights a week between Madrid and Barcelona, making it the busiest air route in the world according to global travel and transport information company OAG.

The opening of the high speed rail link between the two cities is expected to cut air traffic on the route.

A high-speed rail link has operated since April 1992 between Madrid and Seville in southwestern Spain.

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NOTA: Esto es rumorología, sólo están confirmados oficialmente los días 21 y 22 por parte de J.L. Rodríguez Zapatero.

DICIEMBRE

16 de Diciembre: Inauguración LAV de Madrid -Málaga
17 de Diciembre: Puesta en servicio comercial LAV de Madrid - Málaga
18 de Diciembre: Inauguración LAV de Valladolid
19 de Diciembre: Puesta en servicio comercial LAV de Madrid - Valladolid
21 de Diciembre: Inauguración LAV de Barcelona
22 de Diciembre: Puesta en servicio comercial LAV de Madrid - Barcelona



Personalmente no me gusta ese calendario, yo prefiero que se inaugure en 3 sábados seguidos, de esa forma, la prensa de los domingos, el día que más se lee la prensa, salga en portada las noticias de las inauguraciones.
Y tener toda la semana con reportajes, opiniones de pasajeros, etc.. en prensa, radio y TV.
Así podemos procesar los datos sin agobios.


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Old August 8th, 2007, 06:55 PM   #216
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From Barcelona to Madrid in 2 hours 30 min. since December the 22nd, 2007!!
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This is very good news, and means that one of the fastest high speed lines in Europe will be Spanish.

A line that is 670 km long with a top speed of 320 km/h to be traveled in 2.5 hours means that direct trains from Madrid to Barcelona will have an average speed of 270 km/h (about 170 mph for us North Americans )



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Commercial speed including stops will be by 270kph.

Top speed is around 350kph.
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it's km/h please, kph is not correct
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From Barcelona to Madrid in 2 hours 30 min. since December the 22nd, 2007!!
Are you sure? I thought it wouldn't be that fast at first... and if the top speed is going to be 300 km/h insteadof 350 km/h I'm afraid it might take like 3 hours finally.
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