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Old February 8th, 2014, 05:27 AM   #2221
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Been there in winter, ever?
I've never been to Galicia (as far as I can remember), especially not during the winter. Should I ever go over there for trainspotting it will most likely be in summer or early fall.

offtopic: Lately Spain has gotten more on my radar as a holiday destination. So far my visits have mostly been to places such as L'Estartit, Piñeda de Mar, Malgrat de Mar and Cambrils, and I made a quick visit to Barcelona (by train from Malgrat de Mar). I want to see more of Spain, but then not primarily for the beaches but to see stuff instead.
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Old February 8th, 2014, 01:39 PM   #2223
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Old February 8th, 2014, 05:15 PM   #2224
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I've never been to Galicia (as far as I can remember), especially not during the winter. Should I ever go over there for trainspotting it will most likely be in summer or early fall.
Ok. Keep this in mind: it will rain in Galicia or anywhere else in northern Spain on the Atlantic side (as far as I know, there are no midges like in Scotland, but always have an umbrella at hand, just as much as if you were going to Ireland, Scotland or Wales).

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You haven´t seen a thing, fella.
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Agreed there. If you are a Dutchman and you love trains take the Thalys to Paris, then from Paris go to Barcelona with the new (for a large part) high speed connection. Then with an AVE find your way to Madrid and end up in Seville. Sevilla, Granada and Cordoba form the region's cultural triangle. The North is beautiful and green but to me at least Andalucia is Spain's cultural treasure. Just don't go in the summer time. In the spring the landscapes are much more beautiful and above all it's less hot. if you want to include some beach skip the med but head for the Atlantic coast instead which is much much nicer here.
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Old February 8th, 2014, 08:02 PM   #2226
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I know! That's why I want to go there

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Agreed there. If you are a Dutchman and you love trains take the Thalys to Paris, then from Paris go to Barcelona with the new (for a large part) high speed connection. Then with an AVE find your way to Madrid and end up in Seville. Sevilla, Granada and Cordoba form the region's cultural triangle. The North is beautiful and green but to me at least Andalucia is Spain's cultural treasure. Just don't go in the summer time. In the spring the landscapes are much more beautiful and above all it's less hot. if you want to include some beach skip the med but head for the Atlantic coast instead which is much much nicer here.
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Agreed there. If you are a Dutchman and you love trains take the Thalys to Paris, then from Paris go to Barcelona with the new (for a large part) high speed connection. Then with an AVE find your way to Madrid and end up in Seville. Sevilla, Granada and Cordoba form the region's cultural triangle. The North is beautiful and green but to me at least Andalucia is Spain's cultural treasure. Just don't go in the summer time.
...unless you like to suffer and be tortured and etc.

Seriously, Seville and Cordoba can go as far as 50ºC in July-August (no, I am not exaggerating).

I think many northerners find Andalusia very peculiar, it is indeed a beautiful region, but I wouldn´t miss the other regions in the slightest.

To me, anyone who wants to pretend to know Spain a bit must know the south, but also the north (food´s best in the north, weather isn´t).

And the rest too (Extremadura´s an unknown treasure, and Castille keeps plenty of monumental towns and villages).

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In the spring the landscapes are much more beautiful and above all it's less hot. if you want to include some beach skip the med but head for the Atlantic coast instead which is much much nicer here.
The Atlantic southern coast, Ribarca means. The Atlantic northern coast´s okay in summer, but it´s like the UK -it may still rain.
Anyway, the water in the Atlantic is much colder. The water in the Med isn´t cold, but it´s packed in summer.

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Don´t mention.

If you want to do it by train, just ask me. I know every line in the country but two.
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Anyway, the water in the Atlantic is much colder. The water in the Med isn´t cold, but it´s packed in summer.
I've done this only in Italy and France, but perhaps it's similar on Spanish Mediterranean coast that the best time to visit is end of May and very beginning of June. Already very warm and most facilities are open, but no overwhelming crowds yet. Two years ago I took a road trip along the coast from Genoa to Marseille and it was perfect weather. It was even possible to swim (ca +20 C) albeit that wasn't the purpose of the trip.
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September-early October are ok too.
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Have you ever made a thread with the most interesting train routes in Spain (or combinations of routes on a trip). That would be very interesting.
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Seriously, Seville and Cordoba can go as far as 50ºC in July-August (no, I am not exaggerating).
Are you sure? the maxim temperature registred on both cities don't arrive to 47º ... the termic sensation is different.
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Santiago-Vigo line.

River Ulla viaduct.

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Are you sure? the maxim temperature registred on both cities don't arrive to 47º ... the termic sensation is different.
Well, yes, such mild temperatures like 47ºC plus the termic sensation... a delight for the senses indeed.

Besides, are we here to discuss the weather?
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take the Thalys to Paris, then from Paris go to Barcelona with the new (for a large part) high speed connection. Then with an AVE find your way to Madrid and end up in Seville.
If you've got enough high-speed with the Paris-Barcelona journey, consider
using the daily "normal" train between Barcelona and Seville, if it still exists.
It takes a full day, but every minute of this journey will reward you with very
interesting railway sights and practices, as well as wonderful landscapes all
the way. The slow speed will give you plenty of time to admire it. The train
is named "Garcia Lorca", departs Barcelona Sants around 8:00 (last time I
checked) and is split up en route, to Sevilla, Cordoba, Granada and Malaga (I
took the Malaga branch). It was packed (really) when I used it, so reserving
your seat might be a wise option.
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It still exists and takes about 11h 30m between Barcelona and Seville (via Valencia and Albacete), instead of 5h 30m of HSTs via Zaragoza and Ciudad Real.
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And it have links with shutltles for all "formee destinations" of that train. This is, you keep able to go from Barcelona/Valencia to the south of Extremadura changing once the train.

Anyway, it would be faster to take a HS train from Barcelona to Puertollano and later a regional train
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And no less interesting in terms of landscape, and it may even be cheaper, depending on how much in advance you book your tickets.
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Santiago-Vigo line.

According to the article I link (in Spanish), it looks like the upgrade at Pontevedra station could be ready in May, and the sector Vilagarcía-Pontevedra-Arcade by the end of the year.

The sections Vilagarcía-A Escravitude (including the river Ulla viaduct at Catoira that I´ve often posted), and Arcade-Vigo Urzáiz (including the total reconstruction of Vigo-Urzáiz station) will open later sometime in 2015 or 2016.

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Do I understand correctly that the most advanced sections you mention will be opened before the other ones? Do they electrify the route section by section even though it won't be needed before the whole line is open or they leave that for later?

The viaduct doesn't look all that far from being finished. 2015 should be it unless they run out of money.
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offtopic: Lately Spain has gotten more on my radar as a holiday destination. So far my visits have mostly been to places such as L'Estartit, Piñeda de Mar, Malgrat de Mar and Cambrils, and I made a quick visit to Barcelona (by train from Malgrat de Mar). I want to see more of Spain, but then not primarily for the beaches but to see stuff instead.

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