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Old March 23rd, 2014, 03:11 AM   #2401
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Blimey. I know that street and the tank (that´s the Canal de Isabel II site), I just didn´t associate. Wow.
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 03:15 AM   #2402
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Why the TER picture in Bilbao is so rare?

TER was not used in Bilbao at all?

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Old March 23rd, 2014, 03:32 AM   #2403
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León - Monforte de Lemos (- A Coruña) line.
Ponferrada station. January 2014.
Renfe class 121 maneuvering in the track 3 after arrive from Madrid
There's a Renfe class 130 on the track 4 because there was a derailment near to San Clodio-Quiroga due to heavy rains.
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 03:39 AM   #2404
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Why the TER picture in Bilbao is so rare?

TER was not used in Bilbao at all?
It was indeed... at Bilbao-Abando, NOT at Bilbao-La Naja.
Bilbao-La Naja, located just beneath Bilbao-Concordia station, and nearly next door to Bilbao-Abando, was the original station for the commuter trains for Santurtzi and Muskiz until the stretch between Bilbao-La Naja and Olabeaga was abandoned for the construction of the Guggenheim museum, and the trains were diverted from Olabeaga to Bilbao-Abando via San Mamés and Ametzola.
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 03:59 PM   #2405
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For me the problem of the Barcelona - Latour-de-Carol line is precisely the low speed. It is not that bad... but higher speed would be an important advantage.
Trains are running slow because the line is underfunded, maintenance is barely enough to keep trains running. Just renovating the current infrastructure to modern standards would be enough to raise speeds by 15-30km/h along the whole route between Barcelona and Toréllo. This line carries 50.000 passengers on weekdays, 15-16 millions per year, I don't know of any line in Spain that receive less funding per passenger.

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Once they double-track the line between Montcada Bifurcació and La Garriga, they´ll be able to increase speed just by avoiding the crossings.
I doubt there will be any double tracking on this line the next 30 years. Both Moncada i Reixac and Mollet del Vallés will fight tooth and nail until they are garranteed funding to eliminate the railway through their urban areas. This alone will delay the project for ever.

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Trains are running slow because the line is underfunded, maintenance is barely enough to keep trains running. Just renovating the current infrastructure to modern standards would be enough to raise speeds by 15-30km/h along the whole route between Barcelona and Toréllo. This line carries 50.000 passengers on weekdays, 15-16 millions per year, I don't know of any line in Spain that receive less funding per passenger.
You´re a bit outdated in this. The line was completely upgraded a few years ago, the stations too.
You can´t say it´s underfunded anymore. New services have been implemented, for instance an express service Puigcerdà-L´Hospitalet, calling only at Ripoll and Vic. Really, it´s not perfect (until they double-track it from Montcada till Vic), but it´s much, much better than it used to, the section between Sant Quirze de Besora and Puigcerdà in particular. The only hellish section left is the French side of the line, still with that bloody Double Champignon rail and sleepers from the Stone Age.

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I doubt there will be any double tracking on this line the next 30 years. Both Moncada i Reixac and Mollet del Vallés will fight tooth and nail until they are garranteed funding to eliminate the railway through their urban areas. This alone will delay the project for ever.
Mollet-Santa Rosa is not really an issue.

As for Montcada, it is very likely that they double-track only from Montcada-Ripollet towards the north, since the section between Montcada-Bifurcació and Montcada-Ripollet is very, very complicated to double-track due to lack of space, which would require expensive solutions (not putting the line underground though, as it goes elevated in that particular area).
In Montcada, the troublesome line is R2 (the Portbou line) and its level crossings, not R3 (the Latour-de-Carol line) nor R4/R7 (the Manresa line).

The current idea is to double-track between Montcada-Ripollet and La Garriga, which is very easy to do. Later on, probably the section between Sant Martí de Centelles and Vic. The rest, someday.
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Old March 24th, 2014, 10:59 AM   #2407
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Had there ever be some old rail lines on Spanish islands?
those were the railways in Majorca:

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Old March 25th, 2014, 07:31 PM   #2408
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Majorca railways


On this map there´s one line that is missing: Consell-Alaró.

Palma-Santanyí, Santa Maria-Felanitx and Manacor-Artà were closed.

Manacor-Artà nearly reopened as a tram-train, but the new regional government has decided to cancel the project and wants to turn it into a "green route" for cycling and trekking when the reconstruction works had already started.
I´m not sure that the large German population in the area around Artà is all too happy about it.
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Santiago-Vigo line.

River Ulla viaduct, in Catoira, seen from afar:

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Palencia station.

Images of the upgrade, preliminary Works for the arrival of the Madrid-Asturias HSL, one of them containing an Arco train (Bilbao/Hendaye-Vigo-Corunna):

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Do diesel trains routinely call at Madrid Pta. Atocha?
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Santiago-Vigo line.

River Ulla viaduct.

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Do diesel trains routinely call at Madrid Pta. Atocha?
Not anymore on the standard gauge side, the part known as Madrid-Puerta de Atocha, dedicated only to HSL (AVE, Alvia, Avant, Altaria, Talgo 200).

They do at the Iberian gauge side, known as Madrid-Atocha or Madrid-Atocha Cercanías (regional trains for Extremadura, Cuenca, Valencia via Cuenca, or long distance Altaria trains for Murcia and Cartagena, Talgos for Almeria, an Intercity for Águilas, and also the bi-mode Alvia trains Alicante-Corunna).
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A few years ago, when there were still Iberian gauge tracks on Puerta de Atocha (the terminus part of the Atocha complex), there were some diesel services. Not anymore, as 437.001 says, since all the tracks were transformed into standard gauge tracks dedicated to HSL services.
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The work on the bridge across the Ulla river is progressing nicely, judging by those photos. It's starting to look very cool.
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Santiago-Vigo line.
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Medina del Campo-Zamora-Puebla de Sanabria-Ourense classic line.
Lubián station.


This is the last station in the Zamora province (Castile & Leon) before entering the Ourense province (Galicia).

The station lost its passenger service not long ago, with the withdrawal of the Puebla de Sanabria-Ourense regional services.

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It looks like it was renovated yesterday… Is it likely to see some use in the future?
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It looks like it was renovated yesterday… Is it likely to see some use in the future?
Good question.

Now the classic line doesn´t see any regional passenger train anymore, but that doesn´t mean that a new regional train could run in the future -if the routes were better planned, that is. It is true though, that the area isn´t very populated, but perhaps a better design of the routes could attract some more passengers.

The former offer, before the service was discontinued, was a Regional train Puebla de Sanabria-Ourense, and another Puebla de Sanabria-Zamora-Valladolid. It´s been so many years since no Valladolid-Zamora-Ourense regional service runs on the line. It´s not unlikely that such a service, if reestablished, would attract a higher number of passengers than the last services that ran on the line, even if the timetables were not adapted to the working timetable of the villages.

Time will tell, but now it doesn´t seem like the line has a very bright future for regional passenger traffic. The only passenger trains that run on the line are the Alvia services, which call only at Puebla de Sanabria and A Gudiña. But these will run on the HSL in the near future...
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Do they have some plans to convert the old Madrid-Brugos railway (via Aranda de Duero) into a cycling path or something?
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