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Old March 29th, 2014, 07:10 PM   #2421
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Do they have some plans to convert the old Madrid-Brugos railway (via Aranda de Duero) into a cycling path or something?
They gonna reopen it for freight trains from Aranda de Duero (the city has a huge industrial area) to Burgos, where the line links with the rest of the network.

In the Southern tip of the line, Madrid commuter train network (Cercanías) is going to be enlarged from Colmenar Viejo to Soto del Real refurbishing the existing line. Futhermore a touristic train is planned to be operated from Madrid to Somosierra (Northern corner of the Madrid region).

From Somosierra to Aranda de Duero will keep unused.
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Old March 29th, 2014, 07:35 PM   #2422
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León - Monforte de Lemos (- A Coruña) line.
Ponferrada station. January 2014.
Renfe class 251 with a container train from Vigo to León.
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Old March 29th, 2014, 08:26 PM   #2423
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Do they have some plans to convert the old Madrid-Burgos railway (via Aranda de Duero) into a cycling path or something?
Er... the line is technically 'open'. But no trains run regularly between Colmenar Viejo and Burgos, and they can´t because there was a landslide inside the Somosierra tunnel (with a draisine imprisoned inside the landslide), and after that happened, there were people who stole bits of rail and a lot of the cables of the signalling system.

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They´re going to reopen it for freight trains from Aranda de Duero (the city has a huge industrial area) to Burgos, where the line links with the rest of the network.
I´m not all too confident in this.

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In the Southern tip of the line, Madrid commuter train network (Cercanías) is going to be enlarged from Colmenar Viejo to Soto del Real refurbishing the existing line. Futhermore a touristic train is planned to be operated from Madrid to Somosierra (Northern corner of the Madrid region).
Robregordo-Somosierra, not Somosierra.

The commuter service (wchich would require electrification and maybe also doubletracking) could be extended further north from Colmenar Viejo, but the project is currently on hold due to budgetary reasons.
The first planned phase was Colmenar Viejo-Soto del Real, but there was the intention of taking it further north on a second phase (to Miraflores de la Sierra, but its then mayor didn´t want to -the next will maybe want to).
Further extensions to the north aren´t to be discarded in the more distant future, depending on the evolution of the population in Madrid.

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From Somosierra to Aranda de Duero will keep unused.
For the time being, yes. And the prospects aren´t good in the slightest, it could actually be closed.
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Old March 29th, 2014, 10:19 PM   #2424
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The new Valladolid Renfe workshop (still under construction) and the Valladolid avoiding line (for freight, under construction too -will take longer to finish than the workshop).

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Old March 29th, 2014, 10:48 PM   #2425
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By "avoiding line" I think you mean bypass
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Old March 30th, 2014, 12:35 AM   #2426
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By "avoiding line" I think you mean bypass
Of course. Both terms are used.
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Old March 30th, 2014, 12:52 PM   #2427
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If I'm not mistaken, when Valladolid bypass opens, Valladolid will be the fifth big Spanish city with a bypass line for freight, after Madrid, Barcelona, Sevilla and Zaragoza.

The case of Valencia is a little bit different: as the main station of the city (Valencia Nord) is in cul-de-sac, freight trains just use connections between lines in the outskirts of the city to avoid the main station, but there is no purposely built bypass line.
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Old March 30th, 2014, 05:04 PM   #2428
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The problem in Valencia is exactly the opposite than in the other cities you mention, it´s the passenger rail, the one which is in need of a through line.

Bilbao would also be another case for an outer freight by-pass, but in Bilbao there´s a plan to build one, although that particular one will be very expensive.

Another city would also benefit in the future of such an infrastructure, but only if the freight developed in a way that meant a dramatic increase of the number of trains (which is not the case now): Murcia.
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News!!

A new section of the upgrade of the Seville-Cadiz classic line was open yesterday.
It comprises the double-tracking of 32 km between Las Cabezas de San Juan and Aeropuerto de Jerez (terminus of the Cadiz Cercanias commuter rail service).

In the image we can see a class 130 Alvia train rushing through Aeropuerto de Jerez station (formerly known as 'La Parra'), on its way to Cadiz:

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What is still left to be completed on this project?
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What is still left to be completed on this project?
The second track of the new underground Puerto Real station (by the beginning of April, one week or two), and then the section between Las Cabezas de San Juan and Utrera, which will be ready by the end of the year if all goes well, I guess.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 12:19 AM   #2432
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If I'm not mistaken, when Valladolid bypass opens, Valladolid will be the fifth big Spanish city with a bypass line for freight, after Madrid, Barcelona, Sevilla and Zaragoza.

The case of Valencia is a little bit different: as the main station of the city (Valencia Nord) is in cul-de-sac, freight trains just use connections between lines in the outskirts of the city to avoid the main station, but there is no purposely built bypass line.
You're right but think that Spanish citizens live mainly in the coast and there are many terminus stations. For instance... there is no freight by-pass in Malaga or so..., either in Gijon.

As solutions for smaller cities you can consider
Huesca
https://www.google.es/maps/place/Hue...8dfd864aa74791

and Leon
https://www.google.es/maps/place/Le%...849ffad4f1eef3
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Barcelona-Granollers Centre-Maçanet Massanes-Girona-Portbou/Cerbère classic line.
Mollet-Sant Fost station.


Pics and videos of two freight trains pulled by a class 253:

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Madrid-Aranda de Duero-Burgos line.
Aranda de Duero-Montecillo station.


The section between Aranda de Duero-Montecillo and Burgos will reopen for freight in the beginning of 2015, it seems.
We´ll see wether that becomes a reality or not.

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Santiago-Vigo line.
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Santiago-Vigo line.

River Ulla viaduct, in Catoira:

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A little bit off-topic, hope no one minds…

I just realised that I have a long weekend free from work in late June for which I had no plans. I was looking where I could fly without spending unjustifiably large amounts of money for only 3-4 days and one option I found was a flight to Santiago. It would be my first time in Northern Spain. Do I have a decent chance of having a good whether (<30 C would be great)? If there is time for one medium length train trip to another town within Galicia, which one would you suggest?
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A little bit off-topic, hope no one minds…

I just realised that I have a long weekend free from work in late June for which I had no plans. I was looking where I could fly without spending unjustifiably large amounts of money for only 3-4 days and one option I found was a flight to Santiago. It would be my first time in Northern Spain. Do I have a decent chance of having a good whether (<30 C would be great)?
If by 'good weather' you mean 'sunny', er... you might as well choose York or Liverpool: the umbrella is compulsory for any trip to Santiago.

The temperatures are usually warmer than in Britain by June though, but not always (and albeit sometimes they can be much warmer than expected, it´s not that usual), and food is excellent (best seafood in Europe, and btw, do not miss the white wines there if you like them, they´re not that different from the German/Alsatian ones ).

Santiago is, without a doubt, one of the most beautiful Spanish cities.

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If there is time for one medium length train trip to another town within Galicia, which one would you suggest?
A good day trip could be a return ticket from Santiago to Pontevedra by train (they´re frequent, and you´d run under THE viaduct under construction (do I need to tell you which?) when you pass by Catoira and the works of the upgrade of the line in general (and if you do, pictures are welcome ).

Pontevedra is another very beautiful city, and rather different from Santiago (but much less touristic).
In my opinion, Santiago and Pontevedra are much more beautiful than Vigo or A Coruña.

Have a nice trip if you choose it (and if you don´t, too).

PS: if you do any day trip by train (in particular if you go to Pontevedra, A Coruña or Vigo), do book your ticket days before, trains could be full.

PSS: a really fantastic day trip by train, if you have the time to spare and the timetables are alright for you, could be Santiago-Ourense (via the HSL)>Ourense-Vigo via the classic line through Ribadavia and Porriño)>Vigo-Santiago (via Pontevedra).
The section Ourense-Vigo is just so, so beautiful, and it runs along river Minho and the Portuguese border (and I´d sit on the left).
That one falls more into the category of strictly rail trips, I don´t think you´d have much time to visit things in one day if you chose this route.
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Thanks for a solid information.

I'll look around for a day or two what else is available, but for now it looks very attractive! I think I'd prefer spending July in England over doing the same in Souther Spain. Way too hot for a guy like me who grew up with +30 C happening maybe 3-5 days a year….

P.S. Do you think buying train tickets 2-3 weeks in advance would be enough?
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Thanks for a solid information.

I'll look around for a day or two what else is available, but for now it looks very attractive! I think I'd prefer spending July in England over doing the same in Souther Spain. Way too hot for a guy like me who grew up with +30 C happening maybe 3-5 days a year….
Then all of the Northern Atlantic Spanish regions (from Hendaye to Tui, and not just the coast- Basque Country, Cantabria, Asturias, Galicia) are tailor-made for you.
In June they´re not that warm yet (except maybe Ourense which is THE exception, because of its horrid microclimate -glacial in winter, boiling in summer ).

Besides, between Ferrol and Hendaye, you have the largest narrow gauge network in Europe. Being from Basel, I take it you get what I mean...

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