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Old May 3rd, 2014, 05:26 PM   #2521
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There are passes which reduce a lot the fare. There is an important saving of time as well (1h before, 30 min now). Anyway, even if I consider it is much more expensive, apparently it is pretty popular as the number of commuters has grown a lot: from 300.000 in 2003 with the conventional trains to the current 1.300.000 passengers per year who use the Avant services, so it is not that bad.
Not bad at all. Actually these are the kind of improvements what help improve competitiveness of economy, probably more than longer routes. Even though I'm not familiar with local conditions, it's still a fair guess that it's easier to find a decent paying job in Madrid than in Toledo with accommodation prices the other way around.
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Alicante-Albatera Catral-Murcia line.
Section Albatera Catral-Murcia (under upgrade and double-tracking).

An image of the works at Orihuela station, which is being put underground.

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Alicante-Albatera Catral-Murcia line.
Section Albatera Catral-Murcia (under upgrade and double-tracking).

Pictures of the works between Crevillente and Beniel, taken from the train.

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Between Callosa de Segura and Orihuela:





Between Orihuela and Beniel:









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Will Alicante-Murcia be an upgrade of the existing line in Iberian gauge instead of a true continuation of HS line from Madrid?
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Will Alicante-Murcia be an upgrade of the existing line in Iberian gauge instead of a true continuation of HS line from Madrid?
A mix of both.

Between Murcia and Crevillente junction, they´ve chosen the Cadiz option, which is to adapt a few sections of the existing line, but mostly built a parallel new line (which will allow for higher speeds) to replace the current one.
The section between El Reguerón junction and Murcia was opened a few years ago.

Between Crevillente junction and Monforte del Cid junction, it´s a branch of the Madrid-Alicante HSL, so it´s a full HSL, and it will include the new Elche-AV station.

Between Crevillente junction and Alicante, the classic line will remain as it is, although it will be electrified and a new line could be built between Torrellano station and Alicante station to serve the Alicante airport, but that´s for a later phase since it´s not part of the plan to take HSR to Murcia.
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Not sure I understood even with a help of google...

Is the HSL branch to Elche already built and in standard gauge? If so then trains from Madrid to Murcia could bypass Alicante and electrification of Crevillente-Alicante section is needed for direct service between Alicante and Murcia, right? And I assume this newly built section to Murcia is in broad gauge at least for now.
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Not sure I understood even with a help of google...

Is the HSL branch to Elche already built and in standard gauge?
No, it´s under construction, it will go from Monforte del Cid junction on the Madrid-Alicante HSL, till past the future Elche-AV station (which is under construction and will be a parkway station), at El Realengo, aka Crevillente junction, a place between Crevillente and Albatera-Catral stations on the Alicante-Murcia classic line.

Between El Realengo and Alicante (including the two central Elche stations), the line will remain as it is in the first phase, being only electrified, and some time in the future a new line through Alicante airport will be built between Torrellano station (which is located between Elche-Parque and Alicante) and Alicante station.

Then, between El Realengo and Murcia the line is being upgraded and double-tracked, in some places by building a parallel new platform, in some others just by widening the current platform.

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If so then trains from Madrid to Murcia could bypass Alicante and electrification of Crevillente-Alicante section is needed for direct service between Alicante and Murcia, right?
Yes, AVE trains from Madrid to Murcia will by-pass Alicante, while the Alvia/Euromed service to Valencia and Barcelona won´t, while using the HSL between El Realengo and Alicante via the Monforte del Cid junction and reversing at Alicante.

Cercanías Renfe commuter trains will continue to use the current line between Alicante and El Realengo on their way to Murcia.

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And I assume this newly built section to Murcia is in broad gauge at least for now.
For now, yes, but it is planned to change the gauge to standard in all the Alicante-Murcia line, including the parts of the line that won´t be upgraded.
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From here.

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There is a tram-train in Cadiz?

I found a Spanish wikipedia article, it's a bit outdated but as far as I understood both lines are still under construction. Right?

P.S. I know it's off-topic, but there is no thread for this yet.
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´course it is, but I felt like posting it here, because it has no thread yet, and the thing turned up in the middle of the HSL works.

The Cadiz tram-train line (there´s only one, not two lines) is under construction, and it will run between La Ardila junction on the Seville-Cadiz line til Chiclana de la Frontera through the streets of San Fernando.
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I read that there is a new bridge under construction from Cadiz to Puerto Real and that there will be a tram line crossing it. Outdated information?
Not exactly, the new bridge is a road bridge, the tram line that was supposed to cross it was just an idea that never got to serious planning.
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Madrid-Avila-Valladolid-Burgos-Irun/hendaye classic line.

Las Matas Talgo workshop, located between Pinar de las Rozas and Las Matas stations:

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Santiago-Vigo line.

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I have a little travel question , when travelling from Barcelona to Figueres is it worth the money to take the Avant service? Because I seem to have three options: Local train, MD, Avant/AVE trains but I'm not sure which has the best price/value/time! Can someone tell me what is the recommended/best way to do! Is there a (foreign) student discount?
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What are the long terms for the railway Monforte-Betanzos after LAV Galicia opens fully?
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I have a little travel question , when travelling from Barcelona to Figueres is it worth the money to take the Avant service? Because I seem to have three options: Local train, MD, Avant/AVE trains but I'm not sure which has the best price/value/time! Can someone tell me what is the recommended/best way to do! Is there a (foreign) student discount?
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It depends on how much time you have to spend at Figueres.

With the local train (RG1), departures from Sants, Plaça Catalunya, Arc de Triomf or El Clot-Aragó stations in Barcelona, you´ll be in a commuter train calling at every station. It´s long, rather long, but you can enjoy the seaside between Barcelona and Malgrat de Mar (that is, if you have enough time to get a seat, but you could also be forced to stand for a long while in a crowded train, which is quite uncomfortable). Arrival at Figueres centre station.
It´ll take you 2h47min. Keep in mind that these trains don´t run on weekends and public holidays. It will cost you €12, single ticket.

With the MD or regional train (R11) you´ll run a little bit faster through the main route via Sant Celoni, avoiding the seaside, and calling at just a few or many stations, it depends on wether its an MD (faster) or a Regional (slower). Departures from Sants, Passeig de Gracia, or El Clot-Aragó stations in Barcelona. Arrival at Figueres centre station. It will take you somewhere between 1h48min and 2h20min. It will cost you €16 (the MD) or €12 (the Regional), single ticket.

With the Avant, you´ll run inside an AVE or a TGV, and it will take you between 53 and 55 minutes. You´ll pay more (€20.60 for an Avant-priced seat, €42.90 for a Turista-priced AVE seat, and €60.30 for a Preferente-priced AVE seat, in all cases a single ticket), and you´ll have to book. Departures only from Sants station in Barcelona, arrival at Figueres-Vilafant station (a bit less central than the other station at Figueres).

More info at www.renfe.com (click on the Viajeros section)

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What are the long terms for the railway Monforte-Betanzos after LAV Galicia opens fully?
It will continue to run normally.
The Alvia Madrid-Lugo-Ferrol runs on it between Monforte and Betanzos-Infesta.
And the Alvia Madrid-Corunna-Ferrol runs on it too, between Corunna and Betanzos-Infesta.
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Camp de Tarragona-Vilaseca-Vandellòs new line (link between Madrid-Barcelona HSL and Tarragona-Valencia classic line).
Section Vilaseca-Vandellòs.

Image taken near Mont-roig del Camp.

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It depends on how much time you have to spend at Figueres.

With the local train (RG1), departures from Sants, Plaça Catalunya, Arc de Triomf or El Clot-Aragó stations in Barcelona, you´ll be in a commuter train calling at every station. It´s long, rather long, but you can enjoy the seaside between Barcelona and Malgrat de Mar (that is, if you have enough time to get a seat, but you could also be forced to stand for a long while in a crowded train, which is quite uncomfortable). Arrival at Figueres centre station.
It´ll take you 2h47min. Keep in mind that these trains don´t run on weekends and public holidays. It will cost you €12, single ticket.

With the MD or regional train (R11) you´ll run a little bit faster through the main route via Sant Celoni, avoiding the seaside, and calling at just a few or many stations, it depends on wether its an MD (faster) or a Regional (slower). Departures from Sants, Passeig de Gracia, or El Clot-Aragó stations in Barcelona. Arrival at Figueres centre station. It will take you somewhere between 1h48min and 2h20min. It will cost you €16 (the MD) or €12 (the Regional), single ticket.

With the Avant, you´ll run inside an AVE or a TGV, and it will take you between 53 and 55 minutes. You´ll pay more (€20.60 for an Avant-priced seat, €42.90 for a Turista-priced AVE seat, and €60.30 for a Preferente-priced AVE seat, in all cases a single ticket), and you´ll have to book. Departures only from Sants station in Barcelona, arrival at Figueres-Vilafant station (a bit less central than the other station at Figueres).

More info at www.renfe.com (click on the Viajeros section)
Thanks for the reply!
We are not that time constricted but based on this I think the MD suits us best! Maybe on the return lap we will try the Avant services (high speed fun)! Can you buy AVANT tickets at the station as well ?
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Videos made ​​this morning to head south from Barcelona, in this section match the line width and RENFE Madrid-Barcelona high-speed line Madrid-Barcelona-French border.
Because stealing 200 meters of cable has formed an impressive chaos on trains to Barcelona, and affecting both the high speed line to line as wide RENFE
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Zona Franca 08-05-2014
El caos que habia esta mañana dirección Sants,dirección Vilanova pocos trenes,supongo que también se habra liado por el norte.Tomas hechas desde el puente peatonal de la Calle Feixa Llarga,lo malo que las columnas del puente carretero no ayudaban mucho para hacer buenas tomas....










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Photos and video captures of the same incidence
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Fotos de esta mañana,a raiz de una incidencia entre El Prat y Bellvitge,el colapso era impresionante...










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We are not that time constricted but based on this I think the MD suits us best! Maybe on the return lap we will try the Avant services (high speed fun)! Can you buy AVANT tickets at the station as well ?
You can, but better book them in advance, since there are no specific Avant trains in the Barcelona-Girona-Figueres route, but Avant-priced seats in the AVE and TGV services.

If by the time you´d want to come back to Barcelona, and the train you´d like to take was a TGV coming from Paris, keep in mind that it could be full.

By which time of year you´d be travelling to Figueres? Because if it´s between late June-mid September, it´s even more likely that it could be full...
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Leon-Gijon line.
Section La Robla-Pola de Lena (Pajares new line).


Images taken near La Robla.

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At Llanos de Alba.


DSCN1168 por danlx86, en Flickr


DSCN1169 por danlx86, en Flickr



Here will be a loop:


DSCN1170 por danlx86, en Flickr


DSCN1171 por danlx86, en Flickr



Castro tunnel portal:


DSCN1172 por danlx86, en Flickr



On the other side:


DSCN1175 por danlx86, en Flickr


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Some time ago they changed the classic line, right where the two lines meet. This is now:


DSCN1173 por danlx86, en Flickr


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And this was on 26-February-2011, You can compare with the picture above:


DSCN0172 por danlx86, en Flickr



At Nocedo. Huergas viaduct and Buen Suceso II tunnel:


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Nocedo tunnel portal:


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Southern portal (Leon side) of the Buen Suceso II tunnel:


DSCN1180 por danlx86, en Flickr


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The Huergas viaduct:


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And that´s all for today.
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As it is now it looks a nice highway
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