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Old December 27th, 2014, 12:21 AM   #2701
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Sunfuns...which was your favourite landscape?

And which line(s) would you like to ride?
I haven't seen enough of Spain to give an authoritative opinion

From what I have seen I'll pick Barcelona to Montserrat trip and landscapes near the destination. Perhaps the best possible day trip from Barcelona. Plenty of mountains in Switzerland, but these are very different looking and just as spectacular.

I usually pick my destinations for other reasons and then see if there is something interesting there rail wise as well. Maybe Andalusia next...
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Old December 27th, 2014, 12:33 AM   #2702
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In Andalusia I'd recommend you the trip from Sevilla to Almeria, and the one between Cordova and Algeciras.
Barcelona to Malaga by AVE is alright, too (if done during the daytime).
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Old December 27th, 2014, 11:00 AM   #2703
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Barcelona to Malaga by AVE is alright, too (if done during the daytime).
Only if your seat has windows.
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Old December 28th, 2014, 03:54 AM   #2704
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50% of AVE seats are beside a window!
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Old December 28th, 2014, 04:48 AM   #2705
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He's claustrophobic, or so he says.
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Old December 28th, 2014, 11:10 AM   #2706
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In most trains from Siemens and Talgo seats don't line up with windows, while in CAF trains most do. The worse seat I saw was in the Club class of a S-103 Velaro: a seated person would see the backrest of the seat ahead of him, and a plastic wall on his right.

But even if this is an extreme, many seats of the outer rows don't have a real view of the outside. Either you have a few cm of glass on your side then many cm of plastic, or the other way round, with a lot of plastic on your side then the windows ahead of you. In any case, you can't look outside easily.

Thankfully in Switzerland all seats line up with windows (with very few particular exceptions), but where they don't (for instance, some regional trains around Milan) I always choose a seat with view outside, even when it's dark and not much can be seen and even on lines I know well.

If Siemens and Talgo aren't able to build trains correctly, Renfe should at least allow passengers to choose a seat with a view outside*, like I think in the UK do.

*I know you can choose the windows side or the aisle side on Renfe's website, bud given how seats are placed, a seat on the aisle side might actually have a better view than one on the "windows" side, but you can't know that when you make your reservation.
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Old December 28th, 2014, 11:58 AM   #2707
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As Coccodrilo said, not all seats fits with a window in several trains.

This is due to allow going forward train direction (despite 50% forward, 50% back).

In trains where seats cannot be moved (for instance all for Madrid-Seville) all seats fits with a window. In trains where they can be moved... you can be in a window seat... and have barely a little window or less.
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Old December 28th, 2014, 01:28 PM   #2708
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If Siemens and Talgo aren't able to build trains correctly...


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In trains where seats cannot be moved (for instance all for Madrid-Seville) all seats fits with a window.
Are you talking about Alstom class 100? No, that's not true. 14 seat rows with 6 windows.



About Talgo, it depends on the class. Seats don't fit with the windows in classes 130/730 and 102 because they have 9 seat rows with 5 windows. But they fit in class 112, as it has 10 seat rows with the same 5 windows:

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Old December 28th, 2014, 03:34 PM   #2709
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In most trains from Siemens and Talgo seats don't line up with windows, while in CAF trains most do. The worse seat I saw was in the Club class of a S-103 Velaro: a seated person would see the backrest of the seat ahead of him, and a plastic wall on his right.

But even if this is an extreme, many seats of the outer rows don't have a real view of the outside. Either you have a few cm of glass on your side then many cm of plastic, or the other way round, with a lot of plastic on your side then the windows ahead of you. In any case, you can't look outside easily.

Thankfully in Switzerland all seats line up with windows (with very few particular exceptions), but where they don't (for instance, some regional trains around Milan) I always choose a seat with view outside, even when it's dark and not much can be seen and even on lines I know well.

If Siemens and Talgo aren't able to build trains correctly, Renfe should at least allow passengers to choose a seat with a view outside*, like I think in the UK do.

*I know you can choose the windows side or the aisle side on Renfe's website, bud given how seats are placed, a seat on the aisle side might actually have a better view than one on the "windows" side, but you can't know that when you make your reservation.
In almost all reservations on the Internet, you can choose your seat, except in the promo rate.
If you cannot choose it and unluckily they give you a seat without window, you tell it to the "interventor del tren" and he will change you very kindly.

I did it many times!
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Old December 28th, 2014, 07:01 PM   #2710
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There is a trick to choose seat with promo rate!!! I've used it.

I chose three tickets. Two of them with promo rate and the third one with another fare. Providing you are choosing only promo rate seats, they will be randomly given to you.

But in case of one out of all reservations have another fare... you will be able to choose all seats!!!!


In my case the third ticket had children fare (same price but I could change it free and so...). It was when I noticed that I could choose all.
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Old December 28th, 2014, 07:48 PM   #2711
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Not valid for 1 ticket for 1 person...
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Old December 28th, 2014, 08:10 PM   #2712
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Obviously not valid...
you can pay a little more and choose de Promo+ rate. It offers you to choose
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Old January 14th, 2015, 03:03 AM   #2713
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Former Feve metric-gauge rolling stock (now in Renfe as Feve was recently absorbed by Renfe) finally get their Renfe UIC numbers, as such:

Locomotives

Diesel

Feve class 1500 ------> Renfe class 315
Feve class 1600 ------> Renfe class 316

Dual (Diesel/Electric)

Feve class 1900 ------> Renfe class 619

DMUs

Feve class 2400 ------> Renfe class 524
Feve class 2600 ------> Renfe class 526
Feve class 2700 ------> Renfe class 527

Diesel Railcars

Feve class 2900 ------> Renfe class 529

EMUs

Feve class 3300 ------> Renfe class 433
Feve class 3500 ------> Renfe class 435
Feve class 3600 ------> Renfe class 436
Feve class 3800 ------> Renfe class 438


Note that class 316 diesel locomotives have existed in the past, and actually some old class 316 (Alco) are still operating, but no longer belong to Renfe and have another number.

Note also that class two kinds of class 435 and in two different periods have existed in the past, so these will be the third type of class 435 EMUs.
Class 433, 436 and 438 EMUs have also existed in the past too.

Source (in Spanish): Vía Libre
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Old January 15th, 2015, 05:35 PM   #2714
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I watched videotren's Valencia-Barcelona train trip recently. There are obviously a lot upgrading works being done there. Will that line eventually be standard gauge or Iberian gauge?
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Old January 17th, 2015, 02:18 AM   #2715
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Some pictures from last year:


334.012 Madrid Chamartin 27 November 2014


465 049 Fuencarral 27 November 2014


311.154 Villaverde Bajo Madrid 27 November 2014


310.013 Villaverde Bajo Madrid 27 November 2014


465 014 Madrid Atocha 27 November 2014


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Old February 5th, 2015, 02:18 PM   #2716
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From Majorca to Provence.

Source: Vía Libre (article in Spanish)

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SFM (Majorca Railways) sell six class 6100 DMUs to the Train des Pignes in France, by €3.1 million

Serveis Ferroviaris de Mallorca, SFM, has sold the six trains to the Direction Générale des Transports of the Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur region, for its exploitation by Chemins de Fer de Provence (CFP) on the Nice-Digne les Bains line.





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Old February 5th, 2015, 08:35 PM   #2717
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That additional electrification in Mallorca they talk about (right?), is that something in progress?
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No, they don't talk about electrifying the missing sections between S'Enllaç and Manacor and S'Enllaç and Sa Pobla.

These sections will remain served by class 6100 DMUs, the ones that won't be sold.

The former government had this project of re-extending the Manacor branch to Arta, but when they were outvoted by the current ones, that project was immediately scrapped and the works that had been started were cancelled, instead a hiking route is being built on the former tracks.

The current Majorca government is rather anti-railway.
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Old February 6th, 2015, 06:45 PM   #2719
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The track conditions of the ligne Nice - Digne les Bains is really bad outside Nice urbanized area. Maybe the worst tracks I ever rode on in western Europe. I hope the Mallorcan trains can tackle this.
More likely, they will be employed along the urban section only?
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The track conditions of the ligne Nice - Digne les Bains is really bad outside Nice urbanized area. Maybe the worst tracks I ever rode on in western Europe. I hope the Mallorcan trains can tackle this.
More likely, they will be employed along the urban section only?

Heeheee...

Good question.

The fact is that the Nice-Digne line has low platforms, while the Majorca trains have step-free high platforms.

I really don't know how will they do that if they want these to coexist with current other rolling stock.

Maybe they will just limit these trains for short commuter services Nice-Lingostière.

The rest of the line really needs an upgrade, yes.
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