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Old March 16th, 2015, 08:22 PM   #2741
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Can someone upload any pics of interior and exterior of Madrid Atocha trains station? I can't find on spanish ssc...
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Old March 17th, 2015, 12:34 AM   #2742
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I am with a mobile and cannot set links here.
However, go to Infraestructuras y transportes - Ferrocarriles - Infraestructuras ferroviarias.

The thread will be something starting on "Estaciones - Madrid..." ( there are four thread pages. But surf there)
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Old March 17th, 2015, 01:24 AM   #2743
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I wish more countries would follow Spain in railway development.
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Old March 17th, 2015, 12:52 PM   #2744
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Old March 18th, 2015, 12:19 AM   #2745
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Estación de Atocha, Madrid por Francisco Aragão, en Flickr



Invernadero de atocha por Angel Rodriguez-Rey, en Flickr



Overview of turtles por Jim Whitehead, en Flickr



Atocha cercanías por Antonio, en Flickr



Mi blog personal: davidfmolina.wordpress.com/ por David Fernández Molina, en Flickr



Atocha Dinámica por Fran, en Flickr



Atocha por .Robert., en Flickr



65 Estación de Atocha Moneo Nueva terminal AVE 3417 por Javier, en Flickr



Madrid Atocha railway station. por Raúl A.-, en Flickr



AVE 300km/hr train fleet, Madrid Puerta de Atocha Estacion, Madrid, Spain por Pranav Bhatt, en Flickr



25 Estación de Atocha Moneo Nueva terminal AVE 3384 por Javier, en Flickr



Monumento Victimas 11M 31296 por Javier, en Flickr
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Old March 18th, 2015, 12:31 AM   #2746
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Wow, this station looks much better than Barcelona Sants.
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Old March 20th, 2015, 10:13 PM   #2747
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No wonder. Barcelona-Sants was built in the 1960/70s, and was only upgraded for the arrival of the AVE. It's always been quite chaotic, a bit like Madrid-Chamartin.

Madrid-Atocha is bigger, older, and was upgraded in the 1990s, then once again in the 2000s (and one more upgrade is planned -and a massive one).
Right now it's the biggest station in Spain.
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Old March 20th, 2015, 10:33 PM   #2748
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@Castor_Game Gracias! Very impressive and preety station!
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Old March 21st, 2015, 10:10 PM   #2749
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RUMOUR!!

Upgrade of Santiago-Vigo line to open somewhere between May 6, 2015 and June 13, 2015.

The sections Arcade-Cesantes-Redondela, Pontevedra-Portela-Vilagarcía, and Vilagarcía-Catoira-A Escravitude, some of which are currently disconnected from the main line due to new stretches opening, will be maintained, since it is planned to establish commuter rail services between Vigo Guixar and Santiago.
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Old March 22nd, 2015, 04:23 PM   #2750
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Old March 27th, 2015, 01:24 AM   #2751
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Wow, this station looks much better than Barcelona Sants.
You cannot compare Madrid Atocha with Barcelona Sants.
You can compare Madrid Chamartín with Barcelona Sants, both ugly!
And you can compare Madrid Atocha with Barcelona França, both very beautiful!!
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Old March 27th, 2015, 09:15 PM   #2752
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Wow, this station looks much better than Barcelona Sants.
Barcelona Sants was built during the Spanish recession of 1974-76, on top of that Spain saw huge inflation and a tourist boycott thanks to Franco's antict.

The station was basically a concrete shell until it saw some minor improvements ahead of the 1992 olympics, the it saw a few minor improvements ahead of the opening of the HSR line to Madrid.

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Old March 27th, 2015, 09:45 PM   #2753
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Barcelona Sants is not a beauty, certainly not when compared with Madrid Atocha, but actually I didn't find it particularly ugly or deficient from a practical point of view. I would describe it as average. The worst major station I've seen in Spain is Zaragoza Delicias…
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Old March 28th, 2015, 11:32 AM   #2754
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Barcelona-Sants ticket hall has been left as a mere "wide corridor" with the opening of some shops in the middle of it. It used to be a practical station until they decided to lose public transport users space in favor of private business... It's a shame. Now try to transfer from trains to metro at peak time. You need to dodge people, baggage and shops!
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Old March 29th, 2015, 03:00 AM   #2755
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And that, in a station which will only see the passengers increase in the short term (connection of the Valencia line to the Madrid-Barcelona HSL, new HSL to Murcia, new HSL to Granada, new HSL between Nîmes and Montpellier, new metro extensions...).
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Old March 29th, 2015, 10:11 PM   #2756
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I wish more countries would follow Spain in railway development.
Spanish railway is a phenomenal fiasco in financial terms. It has been built as a political weapon to gain clientelistic voters. Now it requires huge perpetual investment to keep it running without the possibility of recovering such expenses. The quantity of users is and will be for ages too low to make it worth to have. Nevertheless, the politicians will keep enlarging it to remote and unpopulated areas. Meantime, the crowded mediterranean area is kept underinvested. Why? Madrid is not there.

Believe me. I wish not many countries make such historical mistakes.

High Speed trtains in Spain have not increased mobility. It has only taken passengers from airports network still being managed monopolitically and also used as a political weapon. Which has made it largely oversized too.
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Mr. checklist has a very limited view of the problem and quite biased; are those citizens (few according to him) in these remote and uninhabited areas (the gentleman is referring to the Gobi Desert?) has no right as anyone from the rest of country to have decent services ?. One wonders whether if any not had so far is or the simple reason that Barcelona was not there.
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Old March 30th, 2015, 07:41 PM   #2758
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Well, HS lines are not "economically profitable" for cities with less than 500000 inhabitants approx., but politicians are politicians...

Spanish Government should develop the "conventional network" with speeds up to 250 kph.

This is my personal opinion.
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Old March 30th, 2015, 08:07 PM   #2759
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Upgrading the existing conventional and classic lines up to 250 kph (or just making them competitive) would be pretty expensive as it would force to built lots of new stretches, it is, building new lines which is really close to what they are actually doing with the new HSLs.

Maybe, in the flatlands of Central Spain it would be a feasible alternative for improving the network, but in the rest of the network building long new line would be the only useful solution.
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Old March 30th, 2015, 11:01 PM   #2760
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funnily enough, it is in the flatlands of Central Spain where most of new HSLs have been built, whereas in the mediterranean coast the spanish state decided to upgrade the existing line between Barcelone and Valencia.
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