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Old October 26th, 2007, 01:28 AM   #301
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I am very sorry to say this, but it's life:

High speed train opening to Barcelona delayed 1 or 2 months (January or February 2008), due to big problems in the tunnel to Sants station, because of underground waters.

The official opening was 21/12/2007.

But is it official??

Bad news...but it's better to be delayed that they will open the line with problems...
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Old October 26th, 2007, 01:51 AM   #302
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They use german INTER CITY EXPRESS (ICE) for their lines ????





http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICE_3
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Old October 26th, 2007, 02:23 AM   #303
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No, we have that one


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Old October 26th, 2007, 03:01 AM   #304
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But, ¿what about El Prat railway station? ¿AVEs can't arrive there until the tunnel is finished?
Impossible, El Prat station is not finished yet.

High speed train will arrive to Barcelona Sants in January or February 2008, it is official now, before the Presidential Elections, of course!

Now there are 3 train lines not working (for 15 days) and being replaced by 600 buses! The transportation in these buses is absolutely free, also the metro using a train ticket.

We take longer to arrive to work or home but, at least, now it is free!
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Old October 26th, 2007, 10:32 AM   #305
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Hello all,

I am new here and this is my first post

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It is funny because they take suburban railway service for granted. There are many other cities as big as Barcelona without such service, even in Europe. I think Barcelonians are a bit spoiled.
nastyathenian, it's not about being spoiled or not, or if others cities the size of Barcelona have suburban railway or not, it's about a service that was working reasonably well before the works for the AVE started, and after that has been a complete caos with trains cancelled, tecnical problems, trains arriving late or not arriving at all, with a new problem arising every week and no one taking the responsability about it. The local government blaming the central government in Madrid and the other way round.
All this has been going on for more than a year now and obviously the citizens of Barcelona cannot take it anymore. I think we should all complain much more than what we do, the arriving of the AVE cannot be at the expense of a suburban railway service that is taking thousands of people everyday to work, school, etc.
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Old October 26th, 2007, 03:30 PM   #306
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The Velaro is basically an ICE3 with a new name.
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Old October 26th, 2007, 06:23 PM   #307
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High speed line works in Barcelona have been stopped today "sine die".

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A platform of old Bellvitge station collapsed because of the underground waters!

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S'esfondra part de l'andana de l'estació de Bellvitge

Un tram d'uns deu metres de llarg de l'andana central de l'estació de tren de Bellvitge, a l'Hospitalet de Llobregat (Barcelona), situat damunt del túnel en construcció de l'AVE, s'ha esfondrat sense que l'incident hagi causat danys personals. Segons Adif, s'ha produït "un arrossegament de materials en la zona de sustentació" de l'andana central, cosa que ha originat un nou esvoranc que ha provocat "lleugers desperfectes en una longitud aproximada de 10 metres".

La incidència no ha provocat cap dany personal ja que l'estació està fora de servei des de dissabte passat, després que les obres de l'AVE afectessin també un mur d'un túnel dels FGC que transcorre per sobre del túnel de l'AVE en construcció, també a l'Hospitalet. Segons Adif, "només s'ha vist afectat un dels daus de formigó que subjecta les lloses de 5 metres de llarg que formen l'andana, en cedir uns 30 centímetres".

Els tècnics d'Adif ompliran amb formigó la zona afectada, "que és de petita grandària" i posteriorment "procediran a reposar el dau de formigó i les dues lloses d'andana afectades", segons el comunicat. Els tècnics desplaçats al lloc s'han apressat a posar una lona damunt del tram d'andana esfondrada, que és visible des de l'exterior de l'estació.

Algunes persones que, en el moment del succés, caminaven per un pont per als vianants que passa per sobre de l'estació, han explicat que han notat un fort tremolor i, en mirar cap avall, han vist com s'esfondrava aquesta part de l'andana, cosa que ha provocat moments d'angoixa i la fugida a corre-cuita dels vianants cap al carrer.

http://www.e-noticies.com/actualitat...tge-30445.html
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Old October 27th, 2007, 12:51 AM   #308
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en rojo el trazado del ave

saliendo de Sant Boi entra en terreno deltaico (aluvión, materiales que fue dejando el rio Llobregat), y no lo abandona hasta llegar a la Torrassa

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Old October 27th, 2007, 04:58 PM   #309
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nice trains verry modern !
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Old October 27th, 2007, 05:22 PM   #310
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It is funny because they take suburban railway service for granted. There are many other cities as big as Barcelona without such service, even in Europe. I think Barcelonians are a bit spoiled.
you're not right. Barcelona is improving its urban transport and keeps it at really high level. other large cities should follow that example. isn't it great that citys has so good urban transport system and its citizens use it a lot?!
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Old October 30th, 2007, 04:37 AM   #311
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High speed line works to Barcelona delayed 2 or 3 months...
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Old October 30th, 2007, 12:16 PM   #312
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It's just shameful
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Old October 31st, 2007, 02:54 PM   #313
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And more bad news: Barcelona commuter trains to the South, airport train included, not working from 20/10 to 12/11/2007!

And the high speed line to Barcelona will not be finished before 1/5/2008!!

Oh, my God...
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And more bad news: Barcelona commuter trains to the South, airport train included, not working from 20/10 to 12/11/2007!

And the high speed line to Barcelona will not be finished before 1/5/2008!!

Oh, my God...
Source??
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 02:44 AM   #315
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Source??
A boss of RENFE (Spanish Railways).
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Old November 30th, 2007, 06:07 PM   #316
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High speed train line to Barcelona will open before March 9th 2008, General Elections.

It was expected for this December 21st...
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Old November 30th, 2007, 06:15 PM   #317
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Old November 30th, 2007, 07:11 PM   #318
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You can read my source in post number 302.
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Old December 1st, 2007, 12:44 AM   #319
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Mmm, if the track is 100% ready ok, but I don't think they take that risk if there are doubts
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Old December 1st, 2007, 12:54 AM   #320
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High speed train line to Barcelona will open before March 9th 2008, General Elections.
I wouldn´t put my money on it.
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