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Old December 12th, 2007, 11:45 PM   #341
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A nice photo taked by Tintín near Madrid, with the test train A-330...

One of the 4 towers of Madrid CTBA is missing in this photo...
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Old December 12th, 2007, 11:50 PM   #342
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No no, Bitxo...

Sacyr Tower hides Caja Madrid Tower
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Old December 12th, 2007, 11:51 PM   #343
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Not again ...

It ain´t missing, Sacyr Tower & Caja Madrid Tower happen to be so close (as I explained in the national thread) that they look as if they were a single building. Take a closer look and you´ll see the slightly rounded shape of the Sacyr Tower and also the straight lines of the Caja Madrid Tower.

Did you think I was gonna miss one of our beauties? No way!

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Me encanta esta foto, pero... ¡Falta una torre!
No falta ninguna, lo que pasa que la Sacyr y la Caja Madrid se solapan. Si uno se fija bien a la derecha de la foto se ve el contorno más redondeado de la Sacyr y las aristas de la Caja Madrid.
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Old December 13th, 2007, 12:23 AM   #344
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Amazing pic, Tintin.
Symbolizes the progress of Spain
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Old December 13th, 2007, 12:29 AM   #345
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Symbolizes the progress of Spain
Funny ... more or less that´s what I was thinking of when I took it.
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Old December 13th, 2007, 01:04 AM   #346
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It is simply a breath-taking picture Tintin, and really sums up nicely Madrid's steps into the 21st century. I hope you did not mind it being posted.
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Old December 13th, 2007, 01:17 AM   #347
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It is simply a breath-taking picture Tintin, and really sums up nicely Madrid's steps into the 21st century. I hope you did not mind it being posted.
Are you kidding me? It is one of these little things that make you proud of being a member of SSC ... This is what we should be here for ... learning and sharing!
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Old December 13th, 2007, 03:53 AM   #348
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Not again ...

It ain´t missing, Sacyr Tower & Caja Madrid Tower happen to be so close (as I explained in the national thread) that they look as if they were a single building. Take a closer look and you´ll see the slightly rounded shape of the Sacyr Tower and also the straight lines of the Caja Madrid Tower.

Did you think I was gonna miss one of our beauties? No way!



No falta ninguna, lo que pasa que la Sacyr y la Caja Madrid se solapan. Si uno se fija bien a la derecha de la foto se ve el contorno más redondeado de la Sacyr y las aristas de la Caja Madrid.
¡Gracias! Mercès! Thanks!
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Old December 21st, 2007, 11:55 PM   #349
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Some magnificient pics by Tintín again!!

The test train A330 runing near 300km/h...tomorrow will be inagurated the new HSL Madrid-Segovia-Valladolid...

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Old December 22nd, 2007, 05:16 AM   #350
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Great news finally!
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 09:28 PM   #351
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Today, Spanish PM, José Luis Rodriguez Zapatero opened Córdoba-Málaga HSL, as he did yesterday with Madrid-Valladolid line. HS Network in Spain is growing amazingly fast and, sooner or later, although its opening date has been delayed many times already, Madrid-Barcelona HSL will also enter in service during 2008 . Valencia, Alicante, Albacete and Cuenca will join the HS club around 2010. At that time, the Spanish government expects to have more than 2200 km of HS lines, surpassing Japan and France, where High Speed Trains were born.

Some pics that show the openings of the lines. I'll also post videos that show how difficult is to build these things up here in Spain since this country is the second country in Europe with more mountains, just after Switzerland.

Madrid-Segovia-Valladolid:








Madrid-Córdoba-Málaga:










This is how a spanish train change national gauge to international gauge and the other way around. It's really interesting to see how it works:


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Old December 24th, 2007, 06:28 AM   #352
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That is fantastic. Hopefully California US is next! Voters go to the polls in November 2008 to decide whether or not to barrow $10 billion to get HSR kicked off with an initial line between Los Angeles and San Francisco. $30 billion total is needed... and the US gov is anticpated to prvide $10b of that and the private sector the same.
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Old December 24th, 2007, 12:24 PM   #353
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Some pics that show the openings of the lines. I'll also post videos that show how difficult is to build these things up here in Spain since this country is the second country in Europe with more mountains, just after Switzerland.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...phy_map_en.png

Austria, Italy and Norway aren't flat either.

Except the lines in the plain just south of the Alps, italian railways have a lot of long tunnels and bridges: http://home.no.net/lotsberg/data/italia/rail.html
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Old December 24th, 2007, 01:09 PM   #354
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Really building motorways and HSLs in Switzerland, Italy, Norway and Spain is really difficult.

Spain has an aditionnal problem due to its inequal population distribution with big cities separated by long distances.

This problematic mixing among complicated orography, long distances, low density population with an inequal distribution is the cause of the high cost of this kind of infraestructures in Spain.
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Old December 25th, 2007, 12:31 AM   #355
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Go go Spain. Great news!
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Old December 26th, 2007, 05:47 PM   #356
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on which lines AVE service is served by Velaro, which El Pato, and which series 100 (TGV)? or maybe there are no rules, so all could be seen at any high speed lines?

also, are all AVE trains now served with those trains (100, 102, 103), or there are still AVE's with locomotion 252 and Talgo cars? if yes, which lines?

and last - on which lines and services can El Patito be seen?

muchas gracias!
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Old December 27th, 2007, 12:19 AM   #357
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The HSL comes to Bilbao


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Old December 27th, 2007, 12:54 AM   #358
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on which lines AVE service is served by Velaro, which El Pato, and which series 100 (TGV)? or maybe there are no rules, so all could be seen at any high speed lines?
100 emu train on Madrid-Sevilla line
102 on: Madrid-Málaga, Madrid-Zaragoza and Madrid-Huesca
103 on: Madrid-Camp de Tarragona, Madrid-Málaga and Madrid-Sevilla

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also, are all AVE trains now served with those trains (100, 102, 103), or there are still AVE's with locomotion 252 and Talgo cars? if yes, which lines?
AVE services only served by 100/102/103 (*). 252 and Talgo cars actually runs on lines:
- Barcelona-Camp de Tarragona-Zaragoza-Madrid-Sevilla-Cádiz (on HSL between Roda de Barà and Sevilla-Majarabique)
- Madrid-Cádiz (on HSL to Sevilla-Majarabique)
- Madrid-Granada (252 locomotive only to Antequera Santa Ana, from this point by diesel locomotive on classic line.)
- Madrid-Algeciras (only to Antequera Sta.Ana, same case of Granada)
- Madrid-Huelva (on HSL to Sevilla-Majarabique)
- Madrid-Logroño (on HSL to Plasencia de Jalón)
- Madrid-Pamplona (on HSL to Plasencia de Jalón)
- Madrid-Castejón-Hendaia (on HSL to Plasencia de Jalón)

(*): High speed regional services, called AVANT they served actually by 104 emu trains, this services are:
- Madrid-Toledo
- Madrid-Puertollano
- Córdoba-Sevilla

And from 3rd January, 2008 Madrid-Galicia between Madrid, Segovia and Valdesetillas change gauge installations (from this point by diesel locomotive, via Zamora). In all cases in 100% electric route they cange locomotive in change gauge installations. This service are called Altaria.

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and last - on which lines and services can El Patito be seen?

muchas gracias!
On Alvia service, they are:

Madrid-Valladolid-Burgos-Hendaia
Madrid-Valladolid-Burgos-Bilbao
Madrid-Valladolid-León-Oviedo-Gijón
Madrid-Valladolid-Santander

All this service run on HSL from Madrid to Valladolid, except Hendaia service who cange to the classic line in Valdesetillas.

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Old December 27th, 2007, 01:11 AM   #359
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Madrid-Valladolid-Burgos-Bilbao
The Patito in Bilbao's Abando Train Station


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En tranvía he visto una foto que me ha gustado mucho. Es del usuario carril. La ha sacado en Artomaña http://www.tranvia.org/modules/My_eG...s/carril02.jpg
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UT tnx for detailed information!
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