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Old February 21st, 2008, 02:26 PM   #441
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Some videos by me from yesterday...the trip was perfect...

Going into the platforms to put the AVE to Camp de Tarragona...you also can see the first train to arrive at Sants at 08:43 AM from Madrid.






Go out from Sants to Camp de Tarragona...and passing the Bellvitge tunnel...





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Old February 21st, 2008, 04:41 PM   #442
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At 290kmh...When we returnt to Barcelona we run at 301kmh...



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Old February 21st, 2008, 10:52 PM   #443
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And the 120 emu trains operates, today, at Madrid-Logroño, Madrid-Pamplona-Hendaia and some Madrid-Albacete-València services (and I thing to Orpesa and Gandia in summer). In the two first cases runs into HSL Madrid-Barcelona between Madrid and Plasencia de Jalón. In the second case runs on 100% of his route on iberian gauge.
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 01:15 AM   #444
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The AVE+ direct train Barcelona-Madrid passing at 300kmh in Camp de Tarragona station...





Also the "normal" trains with stops arrive easily to 300kmh...Only 4 minuts later to depart from Camp de Tarragona Station...we arrive at top speed...




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Old February 22nd, 2008, 02:14 AM   #445
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Nice videos
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 02:41 AM   #446
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Inside AVE at 300km/h:


Our AVE leaving from Camp de Tarragona station towards Madrid:
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 03:34 PM   #447
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That is cool. I'll definatly make a trip to Madrid once it is possible to do the whole line from Rotterdam by High Speed Rail.
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 04:13 PM   #448
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You will have to wait until 2015 or longer...
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 04:39 PM   #449
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Yeah, that's too bad. Well, maybe if they finish the Perpignan - Figueres part. I don't know why they don't speed up the Perpignan - Avignon section, or am i wrong?
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 05:54 PM   #450
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Yeah, that's too bad. Well, maybe if they finish the Perpignan - Figueres part. I don't know why they don't speed up the Perpignan - Avignon section, or am i wrong?
From Barcelona to the French border, it will be ready in 2012.

From the French border to Avignon/Montpellier by 2015...
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That train has a weird nose. Great improvement on the BCN - Madrid line though. Is Barcelona - Madrid really the busiest air bridge in the world? I would think some US lines might be busiest (Washington - New York or Los Angeles - Las Vegas?), but i might be wrong about that.
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That train has a weird nose. Great improvement on the BCN - Madrid line though. Is Barcelona - Madrid really the busiest air bridge in the world? I would think some US lines might be busiest (Washington - New York or Los Angeles - Las Vegas?), but i might be wrong about that.
In terms of amount of traffic it is. In terms of passenger numbers I think that it is third or fourth.
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From the French border to Avignon/Montpellier by 2015...
And will be a mixed-traffic HSL, probably at speeds under 300km/h
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Too bad. This corridor has good potential with several larger cities, the coastal area's, and ofcourse, the most important of all: Costa Brava/Daurada and Barcelona. Imagine you could travel by train in nearly a day from the Benelux/Germany to Barcelona. (Or Madrid via the Atlantic corridor). It could replace a lot of polluting flights, and maybe some car trips during the summer (though that are usually too different transportation motives)
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Renfe only operates the service. Infraestructure and stations are built and run by ADIF.

Renfe pays a fee to ADIF, as other operators will do when the market is liberalised. It's just like airlines and airports.
And when will it be liberalised ?? I know that the posts in Europe are liberalised at least by 2013, but i didn't know railway too.
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 10:19 PM   #456
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And when will it be liberalised ?? I know that the posts in Europe are liberalised at least by 2013, but i didn't know railway too.
I haven't heard of it either.

I guess Booze meant other passenger companies (besides Renfe) will pay a fee to ADIF (infraestructure owner) when passenger traffic is liberalized in 2010-2012.

In Spain freight traffic is already liberalized, but not yet for passengers.
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Yeah in quite every country it's like in Spain. In Greece i don't know how it is, there is no other operator than OSE. In Italy we have now NTV in the passanger traffic, lucky italy.
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From Barcelona to the French border, it will be ready in 2012.

From the French border to Avignon/Montpellier by 2015...
Currently the TGV line stops north of Nîmes : the Montpellier-Nîmes segment was originally supposed to be built with the LGV Méd (which itself opened in 2001), but it was postponed ca 1995 for cost reasons... As of today construction should take place around the 2009-2013 period, although it has been delayed because funding wasn't secured - and I think it still hasn't been entirely solved. But the line will stop south of Montpellier, with mixed freight / passenger service, and no new stations will be built for Nîmes and Montpellier at the moment (Map).
The Montpellier-Perpignan section is still on the drawing board, since the first project was scrapped in the 1990s (also for cost issues). The public debate is supposed to take place this year (expected travel time of 45 mins between Montpellier and Perpignan ; there is about 150 km between the two cities).
The Perpignan-Figueres international line, with the tunnel under the Perthus pass, is scheduled to open in 2009, and its continuation to Barcelona in 2012.
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Yeah, that's too bad. Well, maybe if they finish the Perpignan - Figueres part. I don't know why they don't speed up the Perpignan - Avignon section, or am i wrong?
La France, c'est Paris. La reste, campagne.

In general, centralist Paris has decreed that the Lyon-Turin link is more important than upgrading the links between France and Spain. So, the victom is the Perpinya/Perpignan-Avinhon/Avignon segment.
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