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Old April 7th, 2008, 06:13 AM   #481
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qué fabricación de tecnología ferroviaria avanzada la españa tiene... ¡estoy sumamente estupefacto!

y esta foto es la mejor:
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Old April 7th, 2008, 04:11 PM   #482
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qué fabricación de tecnología ferroviaria avanzada la españa tiene... ¡estoy sumamente estupefacto!

y esta foto es la mejor:


¡viva españa!


¡ Y que viva Croacia !
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Old April 10th, 2008, 04:58 AM   #483
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¡ Y que viva Croacia !
sí, ¿por qué no?

¡que tengamos fabricaciones como las vuestras!
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Old April 23rd, 2008, 09:34 PM   #484
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200 km/h are not really "high speed", even if they could be done for some streches over medium-importance lines (Palencia-Santander).

Dear Coccodrillo,

Unlike the Italians, the Spanish people use the terms "velocidad alta" and "alta velocidad".

For "velocidad alta" they mean speed of 200-220-and up to 250km/h for short dash or stretches of a given line.

For "Alta velocidad" they mean speeds between 250km/h and 350Km/h.
Also the French use the expression "High speed" (Grande vitesse) for speeds up to 300 km/h. "Very High Speed" Tres grande vitesse for 350/360 km/h.


This distinction is not made in Italy. Indeed, it is posible to build a VHS tilting train, capable of 300-360 km/h. Fiat had a project of a super pendolino capable of 320km/h. This super pendolino named "Avrila) also had air brakes.

It was never built. Indeed the ETR401 remained a single prototipe for 15 years, before they built in a rush 15 ET450 derivd from the ETR401. The decision for this was merely political.

The tilting mechanism could be useful on lines which allow a maximum speed of 250km/h, such as the Direttisima Florence-Rome.

The problem with the Direttissima is that on this line there are too many trains running at very different speeds (140km/h-160km/h 200km/h and some trains 220/km/h).

Furthermore, contrary to the other nations which have bought or built tilting trains of Italian conceptions, the Italians have used the tilting mechanisms of the pendolinos only at the beginning (early '90) and they have never fully exploited its full capacities.

The ETR500 was flawed even in the planning sage.

The FS's engineers did not wanted it. It would have been cheaper to make better use of the pendolonosi and also to improve the pendolinos, like the Fiat original projects "Avril" for a super pendolino capable of 320Km'/h, even on the Direttissima.

You ought to remember that, on the Direttissima, with one pantograph connected to the catenary you cannot draw more that 6000kw.

The historical Forence-Rome line is too slow. There is a need for another couple of tracks between Forence and Rome of a new Very High Speed Line allowing commercial speeds up to 360 km/h.

The French prototype TGV pendulaire (with an active tilting mechanism of only 6 degree) was capable of 320 km/h .

The original Fiat tilting project, as well as it derivatives, have a maximum tilting capability of 10 degrees.

For a Country which has a great number of small to medium size towns, every 50-100km/h the ideal Very High speed stopping train is the Talgo 350. The Talgo 350 accelerates from 150 to 250 in about a minute.

It is ideal for Stopping services of the HSL Milan-Venice yet to be built. It is also ideal for HS stopping trains on the new HSL Milan-Bologna.

I believe that it is about time you show some degree of objectivity in international forums. Take it from an Italian who has been living in the UK for 27 years.

On the soon to be open Milan-Bologna the ETR500Y testing train (2 locomotives + 3 carriages) reached only 354 km/h. It took the train (at a reduced formation) 10 minutes and 44 seconds to accelerate from 199km/h to 354km/h.
On a new Italian HSL, a conventional ETR500 (2 locos + 8 carraiages) reaches the 300km/h mark after 50kms of very slow acceleration.
A better, cheaper choice would have been a TGV Duplex.

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Old April 24th, 2008, 03:18 PM   #485
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It is ideal for Stopping services of the HSL Milan-Venice yet to be built. It is also ideal for HS stopping trains on the new HSL Milan-Bologna.
km 0 Milano Centrale
km 36 (Lodi)
km 72 Piacenza
km 107 (Fidenza)
km 129 Parma
km 157 Reggio Emilia
km 182 Modena
km 219 Bologna

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km 0 Milano Centrale
km 34 (Treviglio)
km 66 (Rovato)
km 83 Brescia
km 11 Desenzano
km 125 Peschiera
km 148 Verona
km 172 (San Bonifacio)
km 200 Vicenza
km 230 Padova
km 258 Venezia Mestre
km 267 Venezia Santa Lucia

Without brackets are the cities where InterCity trains stop, with brackets onther smalelr cities where only some IC stops.

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Old April 24th, 2008, 06:26 PM   #486
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This train is made for you!

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I took that photo last month on Valladolid, Spain. Do you like it?
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Old April 24th, 2008, 09:07 PM   #487
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Cool pictures and hdr effects Bipo!

The train looks quite dirty though, looks like it went through a war
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Old April 24th, 2008, 11:47 PM   #488
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In fact, it crossed through Moria, I mean... Guadarrama
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Old April 26th, 2008, 02:49 PM   #489
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That train looks like a duck but it is better than the "fast rail" we have in Aust or lack of it.
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Old May 13th, 2008, 05:54 PM   #490
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I made this video yesterday at L'Arboç, between Barcelona and Camp de Tarragona, the AVE S103 Flying at full Speed, 300kmh!





I hope you like it!
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Old May 13th, 2008, 10:31 PM   #491
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Yeah I do!! Nice one
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Old May 14th, 2008, 01:03 AM   #492
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I made this video yesterday at L'Arboç, between Barcelona and Camp de Tarragona, the AVE S103 Flying at full Speed, 300kmh!





I hope you like it!
Great, but it is running at 301km/h.
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Old July 1st, 2008, 04:56 AM   #493
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Last Friday, inside the cabin after running at 302kph:

[IMG]http://i29.************/33fdblu.jpg[/IMG]

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Old July 1st, 2008, 09:38 AM   #494
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When the speed will be 350km/h on Madrid-Barcelona?
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 12:58 AM   #495
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By October-November, they say...
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Old July 4th, 2008, 09:11 PM   #496
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New H.S.L.Málaga-Cordoba-Madrid. Cartama-Tunnel at 15km. dut of Málaga


S-103 Velaro Málaga-Madrid

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Old July 5th, 2008, 03:21 AM   #497
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Was it really necessary to blank the back of the man's head, lol.
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Old July 7th, 2008, 07:00 PM   #498
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Yes, he asked it.
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km 0 Milano Centrale
km 36 (Lodi)
km 72 Piacenza
km 107 (Fidenza)
km 129 Parma
km 157 Reggio Emilia
km 182 Modena
km 219 Bologna

=========================

km 0 Milano Centrale
km 34 (Treviglio)
km 66 (Rovato)
km 83 Brescia
km 11 Desenzano
km 125 Peschiera
km 148 Verona
km 172 (San Bonifacio)
km 200 Vicenza
km 230 Padova
km 258 Venezia Mestre
km 267 Venezia Santa Lucia

Without brackets are the cities where InterCity trains stop, with brackets onther smalelr cities where only some IC stops.

http://www.ferroviedellostato.it/fer...002f2af90aRCRD
Please post Italian HSR related stuff in a "italian HSR" topic ... it would be much more usefull that way.

that tunnel in the way to Malaga is wonderfull ... I just "need" to go there as soon as possible.
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What's the deal with a new high-speed line cutting really close to La Sagrada Familia? I know that when I was there last month the church had a big display upon how it might undermine the foundations of this truly amazing building.

Anyone have more info?
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