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Old January 31st, 2009, 05:33 PM   #601
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Well, due to the success of this thread, I also want to show you the works of my hometown's new station.

Currently the railway cuts the town in two from East to West even though it goes on a "trench", also the people living near it are tired of the noise caused by the trains, especially the freight ones. Fortunately the freight station was moved to a industrial estate located in the outskirts.

Then they decided to cover the railway and make a new underground station for trains and buses. The project also includes five twenty-storey towers... not bad for a 150,000 inhabitants town.

The new sleepers will support Iberian and UIC gauge, so that the gauge can be easily changed when the HSL arrives.

Here you have a picture by the forumer Titin.

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This position is for UIC gauge, when the rail is on the left it's for Iberian gauge.

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While the underground station is built and the railways covered, there will be a provisional station (in green).


These pictures were taken on September 2008, the provisional station is already in use.

1. Looking West. The provisional station to the left, the workshops and old station to the right.


2. You can see that the old rails of the freight station have been dismantled.


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4. Placing the catenary


5. Looking East. The provisional railway.


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Old January 31st, 2009, 07:26 PM   #602
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Here is a better photo of the dual gauge sleepers, by monolo

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These types of sleepers are installed on every singel railwayline in spain so that they can convert it in the future, ofcause the big problem will be the conversion of the rollingstock.
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Old February 1st, 2009, 12:06 AM   #603
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ofcause the big problem will be the conversion of the rollingstock.
All modern trains have been projected with the conversion to standard gauge in mind.

And if and when the gauge will be changed (I hope as soon as possible) probably all train will be convertible.
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Old February 1st, 2009, 01:31 PM   #604
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HSL Madrid - Cuenca - Valencia

Here some pictures from August 2008. They show the work at the high speed line in Castilla La Mancha. The pcitures are taken South of Torencón.

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Bridge carrying the CM-200 over the future HSR line.

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View in West direction near the bridge.
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Old February 4th, 2009, 11:24 AM   #605
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wonderful project
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Old February 4th, 2009, 10:24 PM   #606
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Will new line Barcelona-Figueras and next to Perpignan be open this year?
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Old February 4th, 2009, 10:51 PM   #607
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Will new line Barcelona-Figueras and next to Perpignan be open this year?
hi friends, It is expected that this ready for ends of 2010

Even the rail and the overhead power cable being mounted.

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Will new line Barcelona-Figueras and next to Perpignan be open this year?
Perpignan-Figueras: this month.

Figueras-Barcelona: 2012.

But the first will be completely useless until 2012, because it ends nowhere near Figueras (not in Figueras station), and there is still the problem of the gauge.
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Old February 5th, 2009, 01:27 AM   #609
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HSL Barcelona - French Border north of Figueres

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Picture from 3.2.2008, most probabably taken from 42.355531 2.903674 about 8 km before the temporary end near Figueres.

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But the first will be completely useless until 2012, because it ends nowhere near Figueras (not in Figueras station), and there is still the problem of the gauge.
The gauge problem can be solved with the S-130 trains which can change gauge. Afak 4 trains will be prepaired to run till Perpignan, where they will be also able to shunt under 1500 V.

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Thank you, I have read that they planend to use the S130 but I didn't know it was sure. Anyway the S130 cannot be used until the construction of a connection between the new and the old lines and of a gauge changer. That is, in 2010 at the earliest, one year after the opening of the Perpignan-(in the middle of nowhere near) Figueras line.

The new line now ends here: http://maps.google.it/maps?f=q&sourc...19226&t=k&z=16
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Old February 5th, 2009, 06:00 PM   #612
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the dual gauge sleepers are cool, thx for posting images
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I just want to congratulate Spain on building such a great HSR system.

The infrastructure in this country is amazing, much better than America's.
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Old February 7th, 2009, 12:40 PM   #614
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The Perpignan-(in the middle of nowhere near) Figueras line.

The new line now ends here: http://maps.google.it/maps?f=q&sourc...19226&t=k&z=16
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Crosspost from the spanish LAV Madrid - Zaragoza - Barcelona - Frontera Francesa thread. The picture show the temporary end in the middle of nowhere as it was in September 2008. Till now nothing changed. (btw: you see a britisch class 37 locomotive parked at the left track.)
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Old March 3rd, 2009, 06:40 PM   #615
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I´ve got a question for our Spanish experts here, I´ve been wondering if the Talgo 350 could do the Madrid-Seville faster than the currently fastest schedule of 2h:20m that is adopted for the TGV-A trains?

Since the Talgo has passive tilting, better acceleration, better retardation and the line has many bottlenecks and slow curvs. I believe it should be possible to shave of 5-10 min of traveltime since the Talgo can go faster through the curves and the bottlenecks.

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When exactly will be open a railway line Perpignan - Figueras –Barcelona -Madrid? In this year? I found here (http://inforail.pl/text.php?id=18514&from=tag) information about that the line is to be put into service this year.
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Old March 7th, 2009, 02:08 AM   #617
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so, will there be a direct Madrid-Paris connection?
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I just took the 'Euromed' between Barcelona and Valencia last week. However, what surprised me, was that the train never went faster than 195 km/h obviously due to the fact that this route isn't HSR compatible yet.

Are there any plans to upgrade this line for speeds of 300+ km/h?
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Old March 7th, 2009, 04:41 PM   #619
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When exactly will be open a railway line Perpignan - Figueras –Barcelona -Madrid? In this year? I found here (http://inforail.pl/text.php?id=18514&from=tag) information about that the line is to be put into service this year.
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I don't think it's finished until 2011-2012.

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I just took the 'Euromed' between Barcelona and Valencia last week. However, what surprised me, was that the train never went faster than 195 km/h obviously due to the fact that this route isn't HSR compatible yet.

Are there any plans to upgrade this line for speeds of 300+ km/h?
The "Corredor Mediterráneo" is supposed to replace the current line.

Some info: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corredor_Mediterr%C3%A1neo

Pictures of the works in near Tarragona: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=212440&page=6


Bonus: Madrid-Asturias line, near Pajares tunnels.

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I just took the 'Euromed' between Barcelona and Valencia last week. However, what surprised me, was that the train never went faster than 195 km/h obviously due to the fact that this route isn't HSR compatible yet.

Are there any plans to upgrade this line for speeds of 300+ km/h?
Right now they are constructing a new railroad between Tarragona HSR station and Vandellos Nuclear powerplant where it will connect to the old railroad.

From Vandellos to Castellon they have yet to decide when they will build a dedicated passenger railroad although it is on the agenda (low priority). Between Castellon and Valencia they will build a new dedicated passenger HSR line, to open 2015.

So by 2015 well have HSR between Barcelona and Vandellos, then uppgraded tracks between Vandellos and Castellon and finally HSR between Castellon and Valencia.

Now the Vandellos-Castellon section will probably still be iberian gauge for the freight trains so the service between Barcelona and Valencia will be handled by Variable gauge trains.

Now until Talgo or CAF come up with a variable gauge train that can run 300km/h they will have to use the current stock wich is limited to 250km/h on HSR and 220km/h on iberian gauge (although only with ERTMS, the spanish ASFA is limited to 200km/h).

The missing HSR between Vandellos and Castellon will probably not be built before 2020.

The Euromed can run up to 220km/h between Tarragona and Valencia, the tracks are authorised for this speed but the signaling only permit 200km/h.

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