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Old May 16th, 2011, 12:38 AM   #1221
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Great map indeed. Is it possible to download a larger version?

of course in the link


http://mapaferrocarril.pacopaco.es/ or

http://www.pacopaco.es/ (here you can also find an Highways map)

there is also a blog, with lot of trains stuff:
http://trenecicos.wordpress.com/

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Old May 16th, 2011, 10:27 PM   #1222
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Thank you very much for the answer, solchante.

I was unable to download a larger version but I found out how to zoom it from the link. I had both the railway (the older version) and the highway maps but my hard disc was screwed last week and I lost everything (including more than 100 maps and 6,000 images of Spain )

PS: The AVE station of Vigo is simply impressive. Hope to see it finished soon.
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Old June 4th, 2011, 04:23 PM   #1223
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Are there trains at the moment that allow travel between Spain and Portugal?

If yes, what is the name of the train service(s) and what route(s) does it ply???

The two capitals of the respective countries: Lisbon<->Madrid

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Old June 6th, 2011, 08:10 PM   #1225
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There are:
* one night train Lisbon-Madrid
* one night train Lisbon-Hendaye (Spain-France border)
* two regional trains Porto-Vigo
That's all.
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Old June 7th, 2011, 03:45 PM   #1226
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Are there trains at the moment that allow travel between Spain and Portugal?

If yes, what is the name of the train service(s) and what route(s) does it ply???

The two capitals of the respective countries: Lisbon<->Madrid

Thanks

In English (Stations, Prices & Timetables):

http://www.cp.pt/cp/displayPage.do?v...c0RCRD&lang=en


- Sud-Express »» Lisbon-Paris (through Beira Alta Line)

- Lusitânia Train Hotel »» Lisbon-Madrid (through Cáceres Branch-Line)

- Porto-Vigo »» (through Minho Line)



P.S.: Portuguese Railroad Network (click here)
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Old June 7th, 2011, 06:41 PM   #1227
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Old June 8th, 2011, 02:24 PM   #1228
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I think those pics have not been posted yet in this thread.

That's how will look the future Coruña's High Speed rail station.The winner desing chosen was finally the César Portela one.As you can see,the historical building will be respected and integrated into the new architectural ensemble..

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Old June 8th, 2011, 07:13 PM   #1229
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I didn't like it, honestly. Spain have designed a lot of awesome, avant-grade stations that are completely new. They should torn down that old stations and build something shinny and glassy all the way, to match other AVE stations.
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Old June 8th, 2011, 07:19 PM   #1230
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I didn't like it, honestly. Spain have designed a lot of awesome, avant-grade stations that are completely new. They should torn down that old stations and build something shinny and glassy all the way, to match other AVE stations.
With the due respect, that is one of the most stupid things I have ever heard.

The new stations will be built when it is necessary only. Some of them will be reformed. Turning them down does not make any sense.
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Old June 8th, 2011, 07:37 PM   #1231
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oH!!! no!!! they have choosen the worst!!
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Old June 9th, 2011, 12:09 AM   #1232
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The new stations will be built when it is necessary only. Some of them will be reformed. Turning them down does not make any sense.
Absolutely agree with you!!In my opinion some old railway station facades in Spain deserve be preserved and integrated into the new projects.That will be the case of cities like A Coruña or Valencia or has been the case of LLeida for example.

A Coruña



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Old June 9th, 2011, 04:46 AM   #1233
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With the due respect, that is one of the most stupid things I have ever heard.

The new stations will be built when it is necessary only. Some of them will be reformed. Turning them down does not make any sense.
I totally agree with you. Old stations need to be kept and integrated with modern facilities. Just look at NY Penn Station to see what would be lost if what Suburbanist proposes is followed through with, and then look at St Pancras Station to see what would be gained if you do blend the old with the new.
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Old June 9th, 2011, 05:00 AM   #1234
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I totally agree with you. Old stations need to be kept and integrated with modern facilities. Just look at NY Penn Station to see what would be lost if what Suburbanist proposes is followed through with, and then look at St Pancras Station to see what would be gained if you do blend the old with the new.
I don't see value in functional stuff (like train stations) that are merely 100-150 years old. It is just a matter of taste. I'd demolish St. Pancras, Gare de Lyon and other stations any moment, without a blink, to replace them with some modern building by Zaha Hadid or Santiago Calatrava.

A compromise solution would be moving tracks and stations elsewhere and leaving a station as a museum, where people go for architecture, not for transport.

I think, for instance, that Liège Guillemins and Lisboa Oriente are among the best stations we have in Europe. St. Pancras is like Neuschwanstein Castle: a fake building, made to resemble something (steam railways) that no longer exist.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 04:32 AM   #1235
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I don't see value in functional stuff (like train stations) that are merely 100-150 years old. It is just a matter of taste. I'd demolish St. Pancras, Gare de Lyon and other stations any moment, without a blink, to replace them with some modern building by Zaha Hadid or Santiago Calatrava.

A compromise solution would be moving tracks and stations elsewhere and leaving a station as a museum, where people go for architecture, not for transport.

I think, for instance, that Liège Guillemins and Lisboa Oriente are among the best stations we have in Europe. St. Pancras is like Neuschwanstein Castle: a fake building, made to resemble something (steam railways) that no longer exist.
Don´t mind him, the Spanish lot, he´s one of the most famous trolls on SSC.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 05:12 AM   #1236
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yeah, every time there's a new troll I think of this super-uber-hypertroll and understand everything is relative.

we should give him the "SSC award for the trollest forumer".
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I don't see value in functional stuff (like train stations) that are merely 100-150 years old. It is just a matter of taste.
And it so happens that the taste of many people does not agree with yours.

Fortunatey.

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I think, for instance, that Liège Guillemins and Lisboa Oriente are among the best stations we have in Europe. St. Pancras is like Neuschwanstein Castle: a fake building, made to resemble something (steam railways) that no longer exist.
Liege Guillemins is nice, but give me Antwerpen Centraal any day.
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Old June 18th, 2011, 02:56 AM   #1239
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The US secretary of transportation Ray Lahood visited Spain yesterday and had some great words for our High Speed Rail network.



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With the due respect, that is one of the most stupid things I have ever heard.

The new stations will be built when it is necessary only. Some of them will be reformed. Turning them down does not make any sense.

I agree entirely.
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