daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Railways

Railways (Inter)national commuter and freight trains



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old July 20th, 2011, 12:04 AM   #1261
437.001
Sister Greed U
 
437.001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: on the road (Spain)
Posts: 32,035
Likes (Received): 15481

A train on the Bilbao-Leon line (Northern Spain, not too far from the Atlantic coast), this narrow-gauge line belongs to Feve, the state company which runs many narrow-gauge trains in Northern Spain.

It´s been filmed near San Martin de Porres. It´s a Feve class 2700 diesel unit.



Video by joserra7.
437.001 no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old July 20th, 2011, 01:49 AM   #1262
cuartango
A orillas del Arlanzón
 
cuartango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Burgos
Posts: 15,945
Likes (Received): 2103

Thanks for the video, it is so beautiful!!

Just to have a location, that train runs from León to Bilbao, San Martín de Porres is a little village in the north of Burgos province.

__________________
Burgos: Cabeza de Castilla, Tierras del Cid
-------------------------------------------- Caput Castellae --------------------------------------------
cuartango no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 22nd, 2011, 12:43 AM   #1263
hammersklavier
Feral
 
hammersklavier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 597
Likes (Received): 423

Just out of curiosity, just how narrow is the gauge on the Bilbao-Leon line?
hammersklavier no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 22nd, 2011, 12:55 AM   #1264
Onkel Beto
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Santander-Torrelavega
Posts: 59
Likes (Received): 8

Quote:
Originally Posted by hammersklavier View Post
Just out of curiosity, just how narrow is the gauge on the Bilbao-Leon line?
Exactly 1 metre!
Onkel Beto no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 22nd, 2011, 12:59 AM   #1265
hammersklavier
Feral
 
hammersklavier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 597
Likes (Received): 423

So the same gauge as Japanese and Taiwanese railroads?
hammersklavier no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 22nd, 2011, 01:09 AM   #1266
Onkel Beto
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Santander-Torrelavega
Posts: 59
Likes (Received): 8

Quote:
Originally Posted by hammersklavier View Post
So the same gauge as Japanese and Taiwanese railroads?
I´m not quite sure about the Japanese or Taiwanese railway gauges, but I´d say it should be more. One metre, that is 1000 mm, doesn´t seem enough to me for the high speeds of the Shinkansen in Japan. I guess it´s more like the standard European gauge, 1445 mm.
Onkel Beto no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 22nd, 2011, 03:36 AM   #1267
manrush
Agenda 21 Advocate
 
manrush's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Urban New England
Posts: 4,150
Likes (Received): 499

Quote:
Originally Posted by hammersklavier View Post
So the same gauge as Japanese and Taiwanese railroads?
Metre gauge is 67mm less than the Japanese and Taiwanese gauges.
manrush no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 22nd, 2011, 10:00 AM   #1268
Coccodrillo
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 7,200
Likes (Received): 768

Quote:
Originally Posted by hammersklavier View Post
So the same gauge as Japanese and Taiwanese railroads?
As said, Japanese and Taiwanese raiwlays (except high speed) use Cape gauge (1067 mm or 3 ft 6 in), while most European railways use metre gauge (1000 mm or 3 ft 3 3⁄8 in), or less frequently the Bosnian gauge (750~760 mm, about 2 ft 6 in).

Other railways use anormal gauges like 950 mm (3 ft 1 2⁄5 in), 914 mm (3 ft), 1100 mm, 1050 mm, 891 mm, 800 mm, ... some of these gauges have been choosen by just one railway.

See Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rail_gauges
__________________
1.6.2016: Basistunnel!

für Güter die Bahn ~ pour vos marchandises le rail ~ chi dice merci dice ferrovia
Coccodrillo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 22nd, 2011, 05:04 PM   #1269
hammersklavier
Feral
 
hammersklavier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 597
Likes (Received): 423

Coccodrillo, 3-ft gauge isn't abnormal in the U.S. Even though relatively few examples remain (the East Broad Top being a good example), it was once the dominant narrow gauge here.

I didn't realize there was such a large disparity between Cape gauge and meter gauge. Meter gauge is, of course, wider than 3-ft, but I'd always thought meter gauge was Cape gauge.

Onkel Beto: I am well aware the Shinkansen is standard gauge. Older Japanese mainlines are built in Cape gauge, however, which is also dominant in Southeast Asia and sub-Saharan Africa.
hammersklavier no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 23rd, 2011, 07:09 PM   #1270
Coccodrillo
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 7,200
Likes (Received): 768

Quote:
Originally Posted by hammersklavier View Post
Coccodrillo, 3-ft gauge isn't abnormal in the U.S. Even though relatively few examples remain (the East Broad Top being a good example), it was once the dominant narrow gauge here.
If the 3ft gauge is common in the US (but also in Ireland) is because of the British influence with their imperial system. That's also why Australia choose the 3ft6in: both are "round" numbers with british units, but are not with metric (914 and 1067 mm), while with the metric system is the inverse (1000 mm and 750 mm are exactly one metre and 3/4 of a metre).

What is strange is that India for most of its narrow gauge lines chose the 1000 mm gauge, not the 3ft or the 3ft6in.

What is even more strange, is that the most common gauge of the world (used on around 55% of line mileage) is a "strange" number either in the british (4 ft 8 1/2 in) either in the metric (1435 mm) systems
__________________
1.6.2016: Basistunnel!

für Güter die Bahn ~ pour vos marchandises le rail ~ chi dice merci dice ferrovia
Coccodrillo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 23rd, 2011, 09:54 PM   #1271
alserrod
Bienvenue à Saragosse
 
alserrod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Zaragoza
Posts: 59,844

Leon-Bilbao, and Bilbao-Ferrol (all the coast railway)

In the 40s, all railway companies were nationalited by the State and they change the wide of all of them except someones. The biggest is this one but near Barcelona, Madrid, Valencia, etc... there are local trains on this wide.

There is only a daily train Leon-Bilbao which stops in all stations.
I have been "lucky" and had to stop in railway passes over roads with the trains in both directions (and they are located far away from my home!!!, and there are few road passes...).


For people who wants to make tourism:

http://www.eltranscantabricogranlujo.com/en/

A seven day trip on a very luxurious train. Just only 48 passengers with a 3.500 EUR price for the week all included.

It is enough to know the restaurants where the receive you and say good bye to see the type of luxe.

In the train you only sleep, have rest and breakfast. All meals and trips are outside the train.

This year way is San Sebastian-Santiago de Compostela (Bilbao-El Ferrol by train, and from/to San Sebastian/Santiago by bus).

Other years the have made Leon-Bilbao-Santiago. They change every year.
__________________
Ya ves que fuimos puente herido de abrazos detenidos por ver la libertad


(José A. Labordeta 1935 - 2010)
alserrod no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 23rd, 2011, 11:53 PM   #1272
Rebasepoiss
Registered User
 
Rebasepoiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 5,821
Likes (Received): 1823

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coccodrillo View Post
As said, Japanese and Taiwanese raiwlays (except high speed) use Cape gauge (1067 mm or 3 ft 6 in), while most European railways use metre gauge (1000 mm or 3 ft 3 3⁄8 in),
It's a bit OT but interestingly enough, Tallinn tram network is also Cape gauge.
Rebasepoiss no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 24th, 2011, 03:51 AM   #1273
alsama
Registered User
 
alsama's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 574
Likes (Received): 612

New train in San Sebastian

Quote:
Originally Posted by Davodavo


alsama no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 26th, 2011, 01:46 AM   #1274
etcs_03
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 191
Likes (Received): 140

Quote:
Originally Posted by alsama View Post
New train in San Sebastian
Good pictures! It is the EuskoTren Series 900
etcs_03 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 26th, 2011, 08:55 AM   #1275
Suburbanist
on the road
 
Suburbanist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: the rain capital of Europe
Posts: 27,539
Likes (Received): 21257

Does it run on 1000mm gauge tracks?
__________________
YIMBY - Yes, in my backyard!
Suburbanist no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 26th, 2011, 09:48 AM   #1276
alserrod
Bienvenue à Saragosse
 
alserrod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Zaragoza
Posts: 59,844

As far as I know, yeah.

This part of network is the same but managed by the autonomous Basque government.

This is why appears the name of "Euskotren" (Basque railways) instead of "FEVE" (Spanish narrow wide railways).

And... it is an international line!!!!. Last station is located at Hendaye, just 300m inside France, just in front of the main SNCF main station.
__________________
Ya ves que fuimos puente herido de abrazos detenidos por ver la libertad


(José A. Labordeta 1935 - 2010)
alserrod no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2011, 12:01 AM   #1277
437.001
Sister Greed U
 
437.001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: on the road (Spain)
Posts: 32,035
Likes (Received): 15481

This is a class 592 diesel unit, in Lorca (Spain), on a commuter service on the Murcia- Lorca line, at a rail crossing in Lorca.
Lorca suffered months ago an earthquake.
Lorca station partially collapsed, but the rail service was restarted the day after, surprisingly...



Video by tadea.
437.001 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2011, 04:30 PM   #1278
Mare_nostrvm
100 % Pimentonero
 
Mare_nostrvm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Antiquum Regnum Murciae
Posts: 2,854
Likes (Received): 433


Nueva línea Cercanías C-5 Sevilla-Benacazón - Adif
__________________
¡Murcia,la Patria bella.De la Huerta sultana.Novia rica y lozana siempre llena de azahar!

[...]E pot hom be dir, que aquell es dels graciosos regnes del mon; que en veritat vos dich, quentre tot lo mon yo ne altre no pot saber, que dues prouincies sien millors ne pus gracioses de totes coses, com es lo regne de Valencia e lo regne de Murcia.[..] (Ramón Muntaner,S.XIV)
Mare_nostrvm no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2011, 07:33 PM   #1279
437.001
Sister Greed U
 
437.001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: on the road (Spain)
Posts: 32,035
Likes (Received): 15481


That´s the new commuter line in Seville, called C5.
It uses the tracks in the classic Seville-Huelva line between Seville and Benacazon.
437.001 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2011, 10:50 PM   #1280
alserrod
Bienvenue à Saragosse
 
alserrod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Zaragoza
Posts: 59,844

Quote:
Originally Posted by 437.001 View Post
This is a class 592 diesel unit, in Lorca (Spain), on a commuter service on the Murcia- Lorca line, at a rail crossing in Lorca.
Lorca suffered months ago an earthquake.
Lorca station partially collapsed, but the rail service was restarted the day after, surprisingly...


Thread about that earthquake
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1378105

11th March 2011,
5,5 Ritcher.


Lorca station (and part of infrastructures) were distroyed but service was closed only one day
__________________
Ya ves que fuimos puente herido de abrazos detenidos por ver la libertad


(José A. Labordeta 1935 - 2010)
alserrod no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
alicante, ave, canfranc, high speed rail, spain in the world

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 08:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium