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Old December 7th, 2011, 01:35 PM   #1321
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Maybe, but I think is the alarm for advise the conductor that he must pulse the "dead man" button. If the conductor don´t pulse this button the automatic brake system will stop the train.
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Old December 7th, 2011, 03:55 PM   #1322
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Death man button.
It doesn't refer to the button, it refers to the speaker were the alarm of the "Dead man system" sounds.

The dead man button is the blue one near the main screen.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 12:06 AM   #1323
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This is a curious link I am posting.

This is MetroValencia, the Valencia, er... 'metro' system.
It´s called a metro, but its branches outside Valencia city are actually a commuter rail classic network with frequent rail crossings and absolutely classic infrastructure. Besides, large parts of the lines are not even double-tracked!

Here you have two 3900 EMUs crossing at Almassera station, on the single-track sector, you can as well spot THREE rail crossings -not to talk about the ones to cross from one platform to the other!

This is the Rafelbunyol branch of line 3.

MetroValencia is ruled by FGV, the public Valencian Regional Government rail company.

Oh, and it´s narrow gauge, metric.

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Old December 9th, 2011, 12:27 AM   #1324
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Same line, this time with 4300 EMUs.
Locations: between Alboraya and Almassera.

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Old December 9th, 2011, 12:51 AM   #1325
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Now we go to line 1, on the Paterna/Lliria branch.
This is Les Carolines-Fira station, the way it used to be, classic rail, double-track, and a 4300 EMU. This station is now underground:

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Old December 9th, 2011, 01:02 AM   #1326
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there's a woman crossing the rails!

the system is similar to métro line 1 of Lausanne, the differences being the lenght of the network, the fact that it runs only in the urban area inside the city, and that we don't use full trains in here but a sort of train-tram, but it's also a single-line with train crossing at most stations with grade-crossings with some streets (albeit few), and still it is also considered as a métro, although it was called TSOL (tramway du sud-ouest lausannois) until the second métro line was opened (which do is a full métro)... this pretty well exemplies how hard it is to define concepts, one existing network has gone from being considered a tramway to a métro without any change in the meanwhile, although in this case it was a matter of just wanting to simplify the network.

Grade-separation is often considered as the requisite to be considered a métro, but then again what happens with a suburban rail network without grade crossings? Is it also a métro?

Lenght? No way, the lenght of the suburban rail network of Lausanne might be smaller than the métro lines of some huge cities around the world, so that very much depends on the city size.

Frequencies? Yes, but how do you establish the limit? A maximum of 10 min? why not 9 or 11?

and so on and so forth...

so basically, IMHO your example clearly is not a metro due to the grade crossings, but... if that doesn't happen inside the urban area of the main central city, maybe until the trains quit that urban area it can be considered a métro, why not, in most cases the suburban trains would be considered suburban underground trains that cross the city, but why not doing the reverse naming? there's no rule against it
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Old December 9th, 2011, 01:36 AM   #1327
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And here are some pics of the 'new' extension of line 5 of the same network.
It´s still in works, and will run from the current station Rosas to Riba-roja del Turia, fllowing the old platform of a former Cercanias Renfe line wich was in iberian gauge, and subsequently is being regauged to metric.

Sadly works on this line have been temporarily suspended due to the crisis.



First station after Rosas will be La Cova:



Then next stop will be La Presa:



Then next stop will be Masia de Traver:



And then the last stop will be Riba-roja del Turia:

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Old December 9th, 2011, 04:01 AM   #1328
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so basically, IMHO your example clearly is not a metro due to the grade crossings, but... if that doesn't happen inside the urban area of the main central city, maybe until the trains quit that urban area it can be considered a métro, why not, in most cases the suburban trains would be considered suburban underground trains that cross the city, but why not doing the reverse naming? there's no rule against it
I've used metrovalencia in Valencia and I think that there it could be considered as metro. When the trains are going to leave the city they "branch" and go to different places (so the frequency is higher in the city).

Outside the city it is more alike a commuter network... with lower freqs. overground, etc...

An example of the urban part of metrovalencia:
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Old December 18th, 2011, 01:30 PM   #1329
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New railway station Logroño



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Old December 20th, 2011, 03:36 PM   #1330
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Railways evolution in Spain during the last 50 years..

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Old December 20th, 2011, 04:43 PM   #1331
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This is a curious link I am posting.

This is MetroValencia, the Valencia, er... 'metro' system.
It´s called a metro, but its branches outside Valencia city are actually a commuter rail classic network with frequent rail crossings and absolutely classic infrastructure. Besides, large parts of the lines are not even double-tracked!

Here you have two 3900 EMUs crossing at Almassera station, on the single-track sector, you can as well spot THREE rail crossings -not to talk about the ones to cross from one platform to the other!

This is the Rafelbunyol branch of line 3.

MetroValencia is ruled by FGV, the public Valencian Regional Government rail company.

Oh, and it´s narrow gauge, metric.
This was one of the lines that were once served by SNCV type S trams
that were sold second-hand by Belgium to Spain. Sold in 1972, used till
1989. Some pictures of those trams in Belgium and Spain on this site :
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/newrep...ply&p=86462542
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Old December 21st, 2011, 06:49 AM   #1333
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great video!!
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Old December 24th, 2011, 02:53 PM   #1334
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Nuevo station in Logroño is very impressive and modern like always in España ¡¡ Feliz Navidad !!
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Old December 24th, 2011, 06:22 PM   #1335
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"Nuevo" means "new", it's not the name of the station.
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Old December 25th, 2011, 03:37 AM   #1336
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Nuevo station in Logroño is very impressive and modern like always in España ¡¡ Feliz Navidad !!


I think that one important thing about it is that it is very modern and comfortable for traffic (it's underground), passengers and railway, as well as it is made according to traffic that will be in the future.

No great stations with no use. Just nice and modern stations where needed
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Old January 15th, 2012, 06:10 PM   #1337
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thanks for the video mare nostrvm!!
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Old February 1st, 2012, 08:25 PM   #1338
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Snow in Northern Spain 1990:

In this youtube you can watch the effects of a snow storm in 1990, this is in the Leon-Oviedo-Gijon line, between the stations Busdongo and Villamanin, in the Pajares Pass.

There was an avalanche, the snow got to 7 meters in some places.


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Old February 6th, 2012, 06:21 PM   #1339
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Old March 21st, 2012, 10:17 PM   #1340
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ETCS Level 1 goes live in Madrid

02 March 2012


SPAIN: The Ministry of Development announced on March 1 that ETCS Level 1 signalling had been brought into use on RENFE suburban route C4 in Madrid, running from Parla in the south via Atocha, Sol and Chamartín to Colmenar Viejo north of the capital. According to the ministry, this is the first application of ETCS on a suburban network in Europe.

Work to equip 190 km of track, including the branch to Alcobendas-San Sebastián de los Reyes, has been undertaken by the ministry at a cost of over €30m. RENFE has spent €23m to install onboard equipment on 112 Civia EMUs.

The number of trains operating under ETCS on route C4 is to be increased gradually as staff training is completed. The adoption of Level 2 is also planned for the Madrid suburban network with the aim of increasing capacity.
http://www.railwaygazette.com/nc/new...in-madrid.html
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