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Old April 13th, 2007, 08:53 PM   #181
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what's on 650 S. Clark? Google sucks at pin pointing the address. Is it the empty lot on the east side of the street south of Harrison?
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Old April 13th, 2007, 09:32 PM   #182
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Old April 13th, 2007, 10:58 PM   #183
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Scary, so Tom cruise is going to be sneaking around the south loop. That guy is Thanks for the warning loopy, I did miss that
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Old April 14th, 2007, 02:35 AM   #184
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Buddy Guys mistake

Chicago Legends reapplied for an existing liquor license at 2109 S. Wabash. Buddy Guys Legends is looking for a south of Cermak location and an employee told me that the papers are signed but their not going public. Look for a move before the end of the year. MY BAD on the previous post.
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Old April 14th, 2007, 09:22 AM   #185
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what's on 650 S. Clark? Google sucks at pin pointing the address. Is it the empty lot on the east side of the street south of Harrison?
650 being an even number would have to be on the west side of the street. It is just south of Harrison but north of the Burnham Pointe site at 730 S Clark.

I have been told that Google isn't allowed to be precise in locating those little pin pointer things. They can only be close...
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Old April 14th, 2007, 08:46 PM   #186
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I have been told that Google isn't allowed to be precise in locating those little pin pointer things. They can only be close...
Isn't allowed by whom? The Tri-Lateral Commission?

It's a technical problem. The underlying GIS data just isn't accurate enough for geocoding to match up with orthophotos that may have been rectified and rubber-sheeted in some other slightly inaccurate way. I understand that Cook County has fairly accurate centerline files, which they paid lots of money to conflate to orthophotos, but as with all Cook County GIS data, they refuse to allow any use or sale.

In addition, Google, like all GISs, interpolates 650 as being halfway between 600 and 700. But in Chicago's addressing scheme (in which blocks normally have only 66 numbers), 650 is 2/3 of the way between Harrison and Balbo.
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Old April 15th, 2007, 07:41 AM   #187
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Thanks Mr Downtown... Interesting to know about the blocks having only 66 addresses.
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Old April 15th, 2007, 05:48 PM   #188
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How is the number 66 to be understood? Are there 33 on one side of the street and 33 on the other? Do all 66 run along just one face of the block or is it the total number for all four sides? You can see from this question that I suffer from a lack of common sense.
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Old April 15th, 2007, 06:31 PM   #189
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Old April 15th, 2007, 07:59 PM   #190
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How is the number 66 to be understood? Are there 33 on one side of the street and 33 on the other? Do all 66 run along just one face of the block or is it the total number for all four sides? You can see from this question that I suffer from a lack of common sense.
I am guessing it has soemthing to do with the fact that there is 660' in a block (100) since one block is 1/8th of a mile and 5280' / 8 = 660'. Therefore, every 20' would be a number (since only half the numbers are on each side of the street).
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Old April 16th, 2007, 01:18 AM   #191
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I am guessing it has soemthing to do with the fact that there is 660' in a block (100) since one block is 1/8th of a mile and 5280' / 8 = 660'. Therefore, every 20' would be a number (since only half the numbers are on each side of the street).
That computes. Running with the 20' distance and subtracting a 3' walkway with each house sharing a foot and half of it, you are left with a house frontage of 17'. That's squeezing them in. Of course, we never actually find a full complement of house numbers on any street for just that reason is my guess. Thanks for crunching the numbers.
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Old April 16th, 2007, 04:41 AM   #192
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I can't stop laughing from that watercolor of Metra's Roosevelt Station.
Is that how they enter the 21st century?!!!
OMG! It looks like the 80's crack junkie's vision of a 21st century.

I would recommend few trips abroad as a reality check.

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Other than that I just found out about this forum and I really enjoy it.
I've been a big fan of the area from Roosevelt to Canal since '96. Although the neighborhood is loosing it's charm lately due to the overflow of athletic yuppies and meaningless architecture.
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Old April 16th, 2007, 04:52 AM   #193
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I can't stop laughing from that watercolor of Metra's Roosevelt Station.
Is that how they enter the 21st century?!!!
OMG! It looks like the 80's crack junkie's vision of a 21st century.

I would recommend few trips abroad as a reality check.

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Other than that I just found out about this forum and I really enjoy it.
I've been a big fan of the area from Roosevelt to Canal since '96. Although the neighborhood is loosing it's charm lately due to the overflow of athletic yuppies and meaningless architecture.
You're right....because we all know that non-athletic people create an immeasurable amount of charm in a neighborhood and athletic people completely suck out all the charm of a neighborhood. They've even done studies to prove this. It's science.
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You're right....because we all know that non-athletic people create an immeasurable amount of charm in a neighborhood and athletic people completely suck out all the charm of a neighborhood. They've even done studies to prove this. It's science.
Yes Sir, they've done studies in Paris.
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Old April 16th, 2007, 06:07 AM   #195
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How is the number 66 to be understood? Are there 33 on one side of the street and 33 on the other?
Yes, one number for each 20 feet of frontage, usually.

Diagonal streets such as Archer and Milwaukee sometimes require numbers higher than 66 along the hypotenuse of a block. In addition, "vanity" addresses have sometimes been granted, such as 680 Lake Shore Drive, 899 South Plymouth, or 888 South Michigan.
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Old April 16th, 2007, 09:33 AM   #196
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I can't stop laughing from that watercolor of Metra's Roosevelt Station.
Is that how they enter the 21st century?!!!
OMG! It looks like the 80's crack junkie's vision of a 21st century.

I would recommend few trips abroad as a reality check.
WTF? ANYTHING would be an improvement over the current station. I'm not sure how many people would actually wait for an IC train just to ride it from Randolph to Roosevelt, but many suburbanites ride to this station to visit the museums or a game at Soldier Field. Additionally, it's right across from the field where Lollapalooza is held, as well as Taste.

I'll admit, the renderings are not photorealistic, but they give a reasonable idea of what the station would look like.
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Old April 16th, 2007, 06:09 PM   #198
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I'm not certain from your post whether you are complaining about the station design or the poor quality renderings.

They are designed to reference the beaux-arts (Paris!) details of the rest of Grant Parks infrastructure.



Beaux-arts is not 21st century!
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Old April 16th, 2007, 06:28 PM   #199
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WTF? ANYTHING would be an improvement over the current station.

"ANYTHING would be an improvement..."
We hear that a lot in Chicago, don't we?
It's nothing but justification of mediocrity.
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Beaux-arts is not 21st century!
And neither is Grant Park.

I am a huge modernist at heart, but even my concrete, steel and glass heart thinks a historically referenced station is appropriate on this specific site. Most any other place, I would be arguing for a contemporary design as well.
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