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Old October 28th, 2010, 11:19 PM   #2121
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New Jones College Prep - State & Polk

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Old October 28th, 2010, 11:25 PM   #2122
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Thanks, spyguy. Any idea what happens in those ground-floor voids? The ones you can see just to the left of the crossing pedestrian?
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Old October 29th, 2010, 04:36 AM   #2123
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Thanks, spyguy. Any idea what happens in those ground-floor voids? The ones you can see just to the left of the crossing pedestrian?
^ That's where the pot-smokers are supposed to hang out
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Old October 29th, 2010, 06:25 AM   #2124
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Its about time chicago got its own fancy down town highschool.
Very Nice.
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Old October 29th, 2010, 08:00 PM   #2125
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Whatever happened to stately public buildings? Haven't we had enough experimental garbage on the public dime?

This is what Stewart Brand would have called "Magazine Architecture". It looks stunning in renderings and magazine spreads but won't work as a building.

Designs (and waste) like this are why people vote against ballot initiatives for new schools.
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Old October 29th, 2010, 09:14 PM   #2126
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It looks stunning in renderings and magazine spreads but won't work as a building.
Can't really say that just by looking at a few renderings of the outside. I'm sure Perkins + Will spent a good amount of time looking at student movements, classroom layouts, etc.

And this is Chicago. DOWNTOWN Chicago. Taking some architectural risk is pretty much a requirement. Every new building can't be a Chicago Cultural Center knockoff. That'd be utterly boring. (and way more expensive to build than this proposal.)
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Old October 30th, 2010, 02:55 AM   #2127
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Any idea what happens in those ground-floor voids?
No, not really, although I can't imagine it'll be something that engages passersby. I like TUP's explanation.

Rather overlooked development in Chinatown mentioned in the Chicago Reader:

Richland Center
2002 S Wentworth

Zol87/ flickr
^The top portion under construction in this older pic now features two large LED screens for ads

This is where Tony Hu just opened his upscale restaurant, Lao You Ju. Another restaurant, Tao Ran Ju, is on the first floor. In the basement there is a food court with a sushi bar, buffet, Kylin Teppanyaki, and soon a Korean noodle stall, Thai stall, and Hong Kong sandwiches with more space available.

Mike Sula/ Chicago Reader

Obviously a little empty right now, but it's great to see Chinatown expanding. Hopefully some of those larger developments in the area come to fruition.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 05:53 AM   #2128
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^ Yeah, I was pleased to see that this expansion of Chinatown Square didn't follow the 'parking out front' format of the original shopping center.

Chinatown has a lot of potential, but the neighborhood really lacks cohesiveness, especially for pedestrians. The Chinatown square shopping center is disconnected from the original Chinatown by a rather awkward array of wide lane streets and parking lots.

I've mentioned this before long ago, but I think the Chinatown parking lot along the Red Line is an absolutely PRIME site for development into a multilevel garage with lower level retail/commercial space. A highrise would also be an option there, except that in Chicago people don't like living next to the L tracks.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 02:01 AM   #2129
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Johnson Publishing relocating, Columbia buys Ebony/Jet building, Wabash garage

http://www.colum.edu/News/johnson-pu...dr.-carter.php

Columbia College Purchases Iconic Johnson Publishing Headquarters Building

Columbia College Chicago is purchasing the Johnson Publishing headquarters at 820 S. Michigan Avenue. In difficult economic times and with a shrinking budget, you may wonder why we would be making this decision now. You may recall that in early 2009, we discovered that due to the Library’s growing collection over time, the weight of the Library itself had come to exceed the capacity of the 624 S. Michigan building structure. The building remains safe to occupy because we have made some interim changes to address the situation, such as distributing books over a larger area and instituting a policy of no net addition of books in 624 S. Michigan. (The Library collection growth is being accommodated by using spaces in other buildings.) However, this is obviously only a temporary solution.
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Q: Why did you also purchase the parking garage at 801 S. Wabash?
A: If we did not purchase the garage at 801 S. Wabash, we would not have been able to purchase the building. The acquisition of the parking garage provides the College the ability to offer parking to faculty and staff at reduced rates as well as the opportunity of a centrally located future development site in the heart of our campus.
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Old November 27th, 2010, 11:09 PM   #2130
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First, a proposal to develop a park at 16th and Prairie. A nearby medical office would pay for the improvements in exchange for building some surface parking spaces on the lot.


And it's no longer a rumor - Trader Joe's is coming to the South Loop at Roosevelt & Wabash. Should be a very good development for the neighborhood.
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Old November 29th, 2010, 11:23 AM   #2131
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16th and indiana park replacement with with a parking lot

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First, a proposal to develop a park at 16th and Prairie. A nearby medical office would pay for the improvements in exchange for building some surface parking spaces on the lot.


And it's no longer a rumor - Trader Joe's is coming to the South Loop at Roosevelt & Wabash. Should be a very good development for the neighborhood.
saw the presentation on the park at 16th and Indiana with friends who live in the building adjacent to the parcel - the park depicted in your post is not a new park, but an existing park, zoned as a park in the central station plan, where apparently someone is trying to pull a fast one on by slicing the existing park and adding a surface parking lot for private use only.

according to my friends this is one sleazy/slimeball deal with some obvious zoning and legal hurdles, and the park is already scheduled to be improved in future by the park district, after it was to be conveyed in similar fashion to lakeshore east park by the developer.
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Old November 29th, 2010, 05:42 PM   #2132
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park or parking lot either way its not that much of an improvement imo... I'd probably take the lot over the park....
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Old November 29th, 2010, 05:48 PM   #2133
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saw the presentation on the park at 16th and Indiana with friends who live in the building adjacent to the parcel - the park depicted in your post is not a new park, but an existing park, zoned as a park in the central station plan, where apparently someone is trying to pull a fast one on by slicing the existing park and adding a surface parking lot for private use only.

according to my friends this is one sleazy/slimeball deal with some obvious zoning and legal hurdles, and the park is already scheduled to be improved in future by the park district, after it was to be conveyed in similar fashion to lakeshore east park by the developer.
"Flacos" is a known community 'crazy' that specializes in spewing misinformation. The "park" is privately owned by the adjacent condo association that obviously does not have the resources to maintain much less improve the parcel. The Park District has no foreseeable plans to acquire or maintain the property and the deal with the local business would not preclude this from happening anyway....
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Old November 29th, 2010, 11:31 PM   #2134
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"Flacos" is a known community 'crazy' that specializes in spewing misinformation. The "park" is privately owned by the adjacent condo association that obviously does not have the resources to maintain much less improve the parcel. The Park District has no foreseeable plans to acquire or maintain the property and the deal with the local business would not preclude this from happening anyway....
mr./ms. slooparch, who are you and why are you initiating personal attacks when we have never communicated in regard to any of this, nor did I attack you? are you with the alderman's office? people are allowed to seek or provide informed opinions, facts, and nuggets to pass on; reasonable people can disagree without resorting to your tactics.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 09:30 PM   #2135
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mr./ms. slooparch, who are you and why are you initiating personal attacks when we have never communicated in regard to any of this, nor did I attack you? are you with the alderman's office? people are allowed to seek or provide informed opinions, facts, and nuggets to pass on; reasonable people can disagree without resorting to your tactics.
If you decide to post facts rather then emotion veiled as facts in your 3rd post to Skyscraper City, then you shouldn't concern yourself with 'personal' attacks...
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Old December 1st, 2010, 03:31 AM   #2136
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If you decide to post facts rather then emotion veiled as facts in your 3rd post to Skyscraper City, then you shouldn't concern yourself with 'personal' attacks...
if there are inaccuracies i will kindly correct or personally apologize.
the space in the renderings could be from any suburban strip mall lot, not a major US city. building surface parking lots appears to counter the goal of facilitating more public transportation based urban density and providing true urban quality open spaces.

could you elaborate on the zoning law or published study that explains your comment of "association that obviously does not have the resources to maintain much less improve the parcel". how does one determine this? if you have it, i would be interested in learning more about the announcement where the park district indicated they do not want the space;

as it stands, a much needed existing park being partially converted for private use into a daily private parking, when there is a dearth of quality completed park space for almost any use.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 04:48 PM   #2137
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Facts:

The open lot at the NE corner of 16th and Indiana is currently NOT a park.

The open lot is privately owned and the public currently as no right to access it.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:59 AM   #2138
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This is the wrong place for a surface parking lot. This is the Central Area, for crying out loud.

This land should be made, in its entirety, into park space. Alderman Fioretti should be working with the Park District and the City to find the funds to purchase the land that is privately owned and make a park of entire site.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 04:11 AM   #2139
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everyone agrees with that.... it's just not happening...
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 04:28 AM   #2140
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I live in one of the adjacent buildings to the park at 16th and Indiana Ave. and can confirm slooparch’s info is accurate. More specifically, the local Prairie District Neighborhood Alliance Board conducted a thorough review of issues, restrictions, and history surrounding the park in question to clarify any miscommunication.

http://library.constantcontact.com/d...urvey_2010.pdf
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