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Old March 11th, 2010, 04:23 PM   #641
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Old March 12th, 2010, 01:20 AM   #642
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What about Milano-Treviglio? In Google maps from 2006 it looks like being under construction. Is it already open?
Yes, but it's not a proper HSR line, maximum speed after upgrading of safety systems will be 220 km/h. Now it shall be 160 km/h. It's a short piece which is mainly used as 4 tracks with 2 specialized in any long-distance trains and 2 specialized in short distance
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Old March 12th, 2010, 01:59 AM   #643
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It's a pity we, Italians, don't have a truly all-high-speed system from control tower to control tower... I hate so much the utterly slow approach of the TAVs on Milano urban area ... too slow, too boring, we could save 4/5 minutes if we had a deep tunnel connecting Milano Centralo to the Rogoredo alignment, like the HS1 in London.
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Old March 12th, 2010, 04:49 PM   #644
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Actually there is a serious study to build a HS tunnel under the city

It is only at embryonal stage and it will costs many billions, so we will see what is gonna happen

About Rome, Turin, Bologna, Firenze and Napoli their junctions will got dedicated HS tracks (some u/c)
The problem was Milan junction: for its role in HS network and for the complexity of an intervention on it
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 10:34 PM   #645
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UP.

From the Italian SSC Forum.

ETR600 Frecciargento on normal tracks between Polesella and Arquà, on the line Bologna-Padova (thanks to Tkmatt).


ETR600 Frecciargento on the HSL Bologna-Firenze (by Tkmatt).


AGV testing on the "Direttissima" Firenze-Roma @250 kph.


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Old April 8th, 2010, 12:41 PM   #646
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NTV train prototype enter Rome

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Propotipo del treno NTV
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Old April 8th, 2010, 12:45 PM   #647
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The construction site of the maintenance depot of NTV in Nola (near Naples)
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CANTIERE OFFICINE DI MANUTENZIONE TRENI NTV

In pochi mesi, da dopo natale in pratica, già si vede edificato il primi capannone delle officine di Nola.

Passando ho scattato alcune foto del cantiere esplicite della situazione dei lavori:

Il cantiere visto dal parcheggio del centro servizi


Il tabellone, attraverso i logli si capiscono chiaramente i motivi della scelta della locazione. I lavori sono cofinanziati dalla Regione Campania e dal Interporto Campano, oltre che dalla NTV.


L'edificio visto lateralmente

il cantiere è molto più ampio di ciò che è riportato dalle foto, in loco si vede chiaramente che già sono state messe in opera altri corpi di fondazioni.

Come molti già sanno, le officine della NTV si stanno realizzando nei pressi del distretto logistico di Nola, nei pressi del vulcano buono.

Nella foto i vulcano finto (di Renzo Piano) e quello vero (di madre terra) alle spalle
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Old April 9th, 2010, 12:40 AM   #648
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Old April 10th, 2010, 06:31 AM   #649
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A very solid and Chinese-like network here.
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Old April 13th, 2010, 12:15 PM   #650
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What do you mean with 'Chinese-like'?
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Old April 15th, 2010, 04:26 AM   #651
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the AGV Train is awesome
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Old April 16th, 2010, 05:27 PM   #652
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I would like to go by train through Italy someday.
Which route would you all say is the most scenic?
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Old April 16th, 2010, 08:42 PM   #653
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it depends if you like a trip on the HSL or historical line.

in the last case I suggest you a mountain travel.
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Old July 21st, 2010, 08:18 PM   #654
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Update of the work in progress of Torino Porta Susa

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Due foto da cellulare di oggi pomeriggio dal palazzo della provincia.
Nella prima si può notare che il numero di archi è grossomodo doppio rispetto alle ultime foto di Riobasco (montavano il 20esimo mentre scattavo).

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Old August 3rd, 2010, 11:36 AM   #655
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New HS train for Trenitalia

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Fs/Giovedì Cda aggiudica gara alta velocità a Ansaldo-Bombardier
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Dal consorzio italo-canadese miglior offerta tecnica ed economica
Roma, 2 ago. (Apcom) - Giovedì 5 agosto il consiglio di amministrazione di Trenitalia deciderà l'aggiudicazione al consorzio AnsaldoBreda-Bombardier della gara per i 50 nuovi treni ad alta velocità. Lo comunicano le Fs, spiegando che la cordata formata dalla società di Finmeccanica e dal colosso canadese ha ottenuto il miglior punteggio al termine della gara, conclusa oggi con l'apertura delle buste contenenti i prezzi. Il punteggio di AnsaldoBreda-Bombardier è stato migliore, rispetto alla concorrente Alstom, sia per l'offerta tecnica sia per quella sui prezzi.
http://www.apcom.net/newseconomia/20...d52_94231.html

50 new trainsets built by a consortium between Canadian Bombardier and Italian AnsaldoBreda

The trains should run at a speed of 360 km/h with a potential max. speed of 400 km/h
All the 50 trains Trenitalia is gonna buy will be built in Italy
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Old August 3rd, 2010, 12:06 PM   #656
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AnsladoBreda already sends shivers down my spine since they have failed on many occasions to deliver on-time. Trenitalia really screwed themselves up and will be kicking themselves in the butt if these trains do not arrive on-time.
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Old August 3rd, 2010, 07:59 PM   #657
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AnsladoBreda already sends shivers down my spine since they have failed on many occasions to deliver on-time. Trenitalia really screwed themselves up and will be kicking themselves in the butt if these trains do not arrive on-time.
I am sure AnsaldoBreda used every political connection to get this contract.

I still think we need a revolution in rail transport, with truly standard European sets so trains can be managed like fungible operation assets like airplanes: leasing/capital companies buying hundreds of them and leasing as pleased to each operator.

Imagine if each airline, upon ordering airplanes, had to work with prototypes, then to make them compatible with non-standards signaling at each airport they wanted to service... Or imagine if, upon buying a car, a driver had to check whether its multi-purpose fuel tank could run in some countries or not in others... Compatibility is a big hurdle to be cleared.

It's 2010, there is no reason why signaling has not been yet standardized European-wide (electric current standardization would be another interesting development).
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Old August 3rd, 2010, 08:44 PM   #658
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The problem with railways is that trains run on an infrastructure (owned by someone): planes just fly high in the sky
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The problem with railways is that trains run on an infrastructure (owned by someone): planes just fly high in the sky
Sure planes never need to land... :-)
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I still think we need a revolution in rail transport, with truly standard European sets so trains can be managed like fungible operation assets like airplanes: leasing/capital companies buying hundreds of them and leasing as pleased to each operator.

Imagine if each airline, upon ordering airplanes, had to work with prototypes, then to make them compatible with non-standards signaling at each airport they wanted to service... Or imagine if, upon buying a car, a driver had to check whether its multi-purpose fuel tank could run in some countries or not in others... Compatibility is a big hurdle to be cleared.

It's 2010, there is no reason why signaling has not been yet standardized European-wide (electric current standardization would be another interesting development).
We're getting there. There already exist rolling stock leasing companies. Starting a company and leasing a few engines than can get from Rotterdam ll the way to the Swiss - Italian border is not a problem (there you'll soon have to put your train on a ferry if Trenitalia gets its way :-)).
There exist standards for train constuction (TSI) and signalling (ERMTS). This only needs some time.
The problem of the differing OHLE systems however has been reliably solved, and is really a non issue at the moment. All manufacturers now more or less offer multi system locomotives as standard.
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