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Old December 2nd, 2011, 12:35 PM   #1050
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I mapped the pattern of lines on which trains travel types.

Can anyone suggest how to know which model trains will fall to, say, on the route Roma-Reggio Calabria and Roma-Genova. I want to make my trip travel to Italy next year so as to ride on the ETR 500, ETR 485, ETR 600, ETR 450 (a dream!!! Oldschool), on a train with a locomotive E.414 and, most importantly on the AGV (I understand that he has not yet been put into operation)
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Old December 5th, 2011, 01:39 PM   #1053
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Nice station. Even has a balcony for train spotters :-)
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(I understand that she has not yet been put into operation)
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Old December 6th, 2011, 01:40 AM   #1055
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Can anyone suggest how to know which model trains will fall to, say, on the route Roma-Reggio Calabria and Roma-Genova. I want to make my trip travel to Italy next year so as to ride on the ETR 500, ETR 485, ETR 600, ETR 450 (a dream!!! Oldschool), on a train with a locomotive E.414 and, most importantly on the AGV (I understand that he has not yet been put into operation)
Hi, nice plans

You will find for sure a "Frecciabianca" EuroStarCityItalia (ESCI), with an E.414, on the Milan - Venice route. Exception are the first in the morning VE>MI and the last in the evening MI>VE, which include some coaches from/to Wien and use a "regular" E.402 B machine.
E.414 are some of the lousiest locos we have around here, I have to say... unreliable and with an extremely poor acceleration. Frecciabiancas are just regular cars hauled by a couple of those machines. On Rome - Genoa links you will find those cars, usually hauled by an E.402 B

ETR 600 are in regular service on the HS Frecciargento link Rome - Venice, sometimes you may have an ETR 485.

ETR 485 are regularly used on Rome - Verona - Brescia links.

ETR 500 cover the Milan - Rome Frecciarossa link.

ETR 450, altough not tilting anymore, is still a great train, with a superb ride quality. You will immediately recognize its interiors to be designed after airliners ones.
You can find it in service on the EuroStar link between Rome and Reggio Calabria.


NTV's AGV will probably be put into service on the main link, Milan - Rome, but we are still waiting to know when. If everything sorts out well, services may begin in early 2012.
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this looks awesome! I wish we have those kind of infrastructure in the Philippines!
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Hopefully the Italian public will wake up to the sham that is trenitalia after riding a (hopefully) much better service, and trenitalia will start losing massive market share... one can only dream...
Hopefully.... ETR500 is a very old train (24 y.o) refurbished 3 times (last upgrading has been cost 500 million euro) With these money Trenitalia could buy more than 500 coach absolutely new... from Siemens,Alstom or Astra Wagonae....puah!

Good point to NTV,last pics from vuesurlavoie
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Hopefully.... ETR500 is a very old train (24 y.o) refurbished 3 times (last upgrading has been cost 500 million euro) With these money Trenitalia could buy more than 500 coach absolutely new... from Siemens,Alstom or Astra Wagonae....puah!
500 million euro doesn't buy you 500+ state of the art passenger coaches. Such coaches will set you back something like euro 2 million a piece...
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ITALO - NTV train Italy
A video of ITALO the new private high speed train in italy. Started from march 2012:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa15DllFzSc
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A video of ITALO the new private high speed train in italy. Started from march 2012:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa15DllFzSc
It seems in Italy everything is possible even to gave name to French product "Italo".

It is same like if Brazil gave new name to VW Golf, Brazilo.
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