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Old December 15th, 2011, 01:32 AM   #1061
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A video of ITALO the new private high speed train in italy. Started from march 2012:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa15DllFzSc
It seems in Italy everything is possible even to gave name to French product "Italo".

It is same like if Brazil gave new name to VW Golf, Brazilo.
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Old December 15th, 2011, 05:01 AM   #1062
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500 million euro doesn't buy you 500+ state of the art passenger coaches. Such coaches will set you back something like euro 2 million a piece...
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Probably is true. But 500 million Euros will certainly buy over 250 state of the art passenger coaches.
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Old December 15th, 2011, 11:37 AM   #1063
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It seems in Italy everything is possible even to gave name to French product "Italo".

It is same like if Brazil gave new name to VW Golf, Brazilo.
I don't get your point...

It's a commercial train of a private company operating in Italy, which gives a commercial name to their own trains for a service in Italy.
It's marketing communication

Who cares where the trains were built?
If tomorrow they change 'em with Japanese or Italian trains the name will remain the same probably
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Old December 15th, 2011, 12:12 PM   #1064
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I even think NTV took too long to deploy their commercial service name (italo). Maybe because they didn't want to burn the brand while the service launch was delayed.
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Old December 15th, 2011, 03:00 PM   #1065
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Sorry but the train is not 'built in Savigliano former Fiat factory in Italy' has been bought by the French?
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Old December 15th, 2011, 03:07 PM   #1066
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It seems in Italy everything is possible even to gave name to French product "Italo".

It is same like if Brazil gave new name to VW Golf, Brazilo.


And as if the brand company's Brazilian aircraft must have French or american names, because are built by Boeing or Airbus !!!!!!!!
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Old December 15th, 2011, 04:19 PM   #1067
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It seems in Italy everything is possible even to gave name to French product "Italo".

It is same like if Brazil gave new name to VW Golf, Brazilo.
Well, Volkswagen did once sell a model named "Brasilia" in Brazil.
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Old December 15th, 2011, 04:27 PM   #1068
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Italo is giving us some glimpses about what the interior of their trains look like, and what the service level is going to be on a new site:
http://www.italotreno.it/
(Only in Italian, but the pictures speak for themselves)
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Old December 15th, 2011, 04:49 PM   #1069
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Sorry but the train is not 'built in Savigliano former Fiat factory in Italy' has been bought by the French?
No. It was built in France
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Old December 15th, 2011, 04:52 PM   #1070
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No. It was built in France
The first four sets were built in France. The rest are being built in Savigliano. That's in Italy...
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Old December 15th, 2011, 05:51 PM   #1071
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Italo is giving us some glimpses about what the interior of their trains look like, and what the service level is going to be on a new site:
http://www.italotreno.it/
(Only in Italian, but the pictures speak for themselves)
Fancy. I like the interior design and train staff uniforms.

Does anyone know what happened to the Arenaways train service?
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Old December 15th, 2011, 06:29 PM   #1072
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Does anyone know what happened to the Arenaways train service?
They are in the middle of a bankruptcy process.

In a nutshell, the regions (Lombardia and Piemonte) sabotaged Arenaways plans alleging they would interfere with subsidized services too much, placing a burden in regional services. The cowards at the Ministry of Infrastructure agreed.
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Old December 15th, 2011, 08:42 PM   #1073
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No. It was built in France
As far I know, 8 are built in Savigliano and 17 in France.
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Old December 16th, 2011, 12:41 AM   #1074
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The first four sets were built in France. The rest are being built in Savigliano. That's in Italy...
OK, shell we call Audi cars from Hungary, Hungaro or Toyota cars from UK, Britano?

Savigliano is Alstom factory, anywhere. Lets finish with this nonsense.

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Old December 16th, 2011, 09:40 AM   #1075
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OK, shell we call Audi cars from Hungary, Hungaro or Toyota cars from UK, Britano?
"Air Berlin" uses planes that are not built in Berlin. should that stop too?
What seems to escape you completely is that "Italo" is a brand. It's a brand that NTV uses to market it's service concept under. That the trains itself are "French" is irelevant. The management at NTV probably had a lot of brainstorms about the neam and came up with "Italo". So what. As long as the trains run on time and are cleaned regularly.

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Savigliano is Alstom factory, anywhere. Lets finish with this nonsense.
Well, you started it...
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Old December 16th, 2011, 09:44 AM   #1076
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As far I know, 8 are built in Savigliano and 17 in France.
I think its a lot more complex than that. As far as I know four sets have been completely build in France (ie, left La Rochelle finished). Then there are sets that have been partially build in France, and were assembled or finished to a certain extent in Savigliano. How much of the work needs to be done in Savigliano in order to be able to call the train "Italian built" I don't know.
Italians of course will stress the Italian contribution, whereas French might want to stress the French contribution...
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Old December 16th, 2011, 09:33 PM   #1077
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Countdown for ITALO, the new private fast train in Italy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHFd9...eature=related
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Old December 16th, 2011, 09:38 PM   #1078
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Maintenance center near Naples , ITALY:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&fe...&v=7a6spGaJJKs
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Old December 19th, 2011, 06:00 PM   #1079
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OK, shell we call Audi cars from Hungary, Hungaro or Toyota cars from UK, Britano?

Savigliano is Alstom factory, anywhere. Lets finish with this nonsense.

Mamma mia quanto sei petulante!
E falla finita!!!
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Old December 19th, 2011, 09:21 PM   #1080
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That Italo name dispute is one of the most stupid ones I've seen around here. The owner of the trainsets can call the train and the service however it likes, and I think that given that it is based in Italy and is going to service Italy, the name Italo fits quite well.
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