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Old June 10th, 2013, 01:37 PM   #1421
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Some pics of BOLOGNA HS underground station

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Vero, non male.
Per˛ i marciapiedi mi sembrano un po' strettini...



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Old June 10th, 2013, 01:51 PM   #1422
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Re : ITALY | High Speed Rail

Fantastic look and structure of the railway station.
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Old June 10th, 2013, 02:53 PM   #1423
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Mamma mia let's start with the jealousies, the station is bad, Calatrava is boring, the materials are cheap, train lines are useless,disabled people remain trapped on the tracks, ecc...... always say the same words against my land, just read the old posts! we lack the mafia pizza and mandolin and stereotypes and malice against Italy are always served! You have only inferiority complex!
I bet if it had been built in Sweden would be magnificent! You are the usual jealous!
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Old June 10th, 2013, 03:10 PM   #1424
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I actually like it a lot in the interior, it looks fantastic. My only dislike is the exterior as i think the fašade is too homogenous (i would have like more diferences in the overall fašade) anyway congratulations for developing your hsr network from spain
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Old June 10th, 2013, 03:16 PM   #1425
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I actually like it a lot in the interior, it looks fantastic. My only dislike is the exterior as i think the fašade is too homogenous (i would have like more diferences in the overall fašade) anyway congratulations for developing your hsr network from spain
Thanks!
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Old June 10th, 2013, 03:19 PM   #1426
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intersezioni, actually joseph1951 is way too italian...

BTW, I really like it.
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Old June 10th, 2013, 03:22 PM   #1427
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intersezioni, actually joseph1951 is way too italian...

BTW, I really like it.

Peggio, mi fa incazzare ancora di piu', se non ci vanno bene le cose muoviamo il culo dal seggiolone e le andiamo a dire in faccia ai nostri amministratori e politici locali invece di sputtanare il nostro paese gratis sul forum internazionali al buio delle nostre camerette! I Francesi o Tedeschi non sputtanano il loro paese e i problemi li hanno anche loro (ps guardate il nuovo aeroporto di Berlino !!!)
Smettiamola e un po di orgoglio!
for english version used google translate or you studied the Italian!
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Old June 10th, 2013, 03:24 PM   #1428
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Peggio, mi fa incazzare ancora di piu'!

for english version use google translate!
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Old June 10th, 2013, 05:58 PM   #1429
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I'm not a fan of Calatrava stations and that one is no exception. I didn't like the one that was built in LiŔge either as they seem to care more about aesthetics and less about the people actually using the stations.
I like the Bologna underground station though. There's only so much you can do to them to improve their looks as they're in a very confined space and the end result there seems nice to me
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Old June 10th, 2013, 09:58 PM   #1430
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I'm afraid the underground (or even pre-metro) project is not scheduled anymore.

They're now just talking of a trolleybus line
Bologna would have deserved it, anyway nice station

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Old June 10th, 2013, 10:24 PM   #1431
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Peggio, mi fa incazzare ancora di piu', se non ci vanno bene le cose muoviamo il culo dal seggiolone e le andiamo a dire in faccia ai nostri amministratori e politici locali invece di sputtanare il nostro paese gratis sul forum internazionali al buio delle nostre camerette! I Francesi o Tedeschi non sputtanano il loro paese e i problemi li hanno anche loro (ps guardate il nuovo aeroporto di Berlino !!!)
Smettiamola e un po di orgoglio!
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Sono d'accordissimo,....per non parlare dei db velaro 407 che dovevano entrare in servizio nel 2009 e forse..... dico forse entrano alla fine del 2013!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old June 11th, 2013, 01:33 AM   #1432
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Mamma mia let's start with the jealousies, the station is bad, Calatrava is boring, the materials are cheap, train lines are useless,disabled people remain trapped on the tracks, ecc...... always say the same words against my land, just read the old posts! we lack the mafia pizza and mandolin and stereotypes and malice against Italy are always served! You have only inferiority complex!
I bet if it had been built in Sweden would be magnificent! You are the usual jealous!
Look up my posts in the Ground Zero Traffic Hub thread and you will find exactly the same statements. Calatrava is easily among the least creative architects out there. Inferiority complex? Why would that be?

Parlando di inferiority complex: Ma guardate ai tedeschi con il nuovo aeroporto di Berlino... DB 407...
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Old June 11th, 2013, 01:56 AM   #1433
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Old June 11th, 2013, 02:04 AM   #1434
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I like the idea of Italy getting some signature stations from famous starchitects. what makes ppl like Calatavra or Zara Hadid great is that they have a personal style that works out irrespective of the place they are stick in.

For me, this is the sign of highest greatness of an architect: be able to design your own thing, with extreme freedom and very few aesthetic constraints on making it fit some regional style or local style (or buildings nearby, which doesn't apply here as the station is a greenfield site).

Now the issue of not having disable facilities is outrageous if true.
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Old June 11th, 2013, 03:25 AM   #1435
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I like the idea of Italy getting some signature stations from famous starchitects. what makes ppl like Calatavra or Zara Hadid great is that they have a personal style that works out irrespective of the place they are stick in.

For me, this is the sign of highest greatness of an architect: be able to design your own thing, with extreme freedom and very few aesthetic constraints on making it fit some regional style or local style (or buildings nearby, which doesn't apply here as the station is a greenfield site).

Now the issue of not having disable facilities is outrageous if true.
An infrastructure must also be useful. If it is also beautiful is an extra bonus, but this exta requirement is not vital to its purpose, it is a mere bonus.

Also, an infrastructure of this type must be not too difficult to build. Some of the Calatrava railway stations and bridges were found to be difficult to build and/ or impractical to use.

This station is a mere covering of a section of a railway viaduct, which differs from the usual box -type enclosure, for its "wawing roof".

The need and practicality for this "beeetrootfield station in the middle of nowhere" can be questioned.

As far as one can see form the pictures pubblished, the materials used for its construction seem to be of poor quality.

The region has very hot summers and quite cold winters, and the transparent roof could make this station very unconfortable, during the summer and winter months...

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Sono d'accordissimo,....per non parlare dei db velaro 407 che dovevano entrare in servizio nel 2009 e forse..... dico forse entrano alla fine del 2013!!!!!!!!!!!
If you are referring to the 10 ICE e320 which Siemens is building for the Eurotunnel they will be in revenue service around 2017.

But this has nothing to do with the topic which is: Reggio Emilia Calatrava HS Beetroot Station, in the Middle of nowhere".

Anyways if the problem of the rain pouring on the station pavement cannot be solved, I am sure that Trenitalia will be only too happy to provide the V.I.P Frecciarossa (Red Arrow) High Speed Passengers with inflatable gondolas.

In this manner, the VIP Frecciarossa passengers will be able to smoothly sail through the entire station.

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Old June 11th, 2013, 03:04 PM   #1437
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These are real problems of construction and maintenance:

Paris, France:


Germany ( inferiority complex for my friend KingNick )

The more serious about high-speed rail crash in Europe:


Newly inaugurated problems with glasses and disengage broke and water infiltration



eccccc....

Italian first to speak bad of your country and do not reflect the accuracy of this world, not even in other countries!
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Old June 11th, 2013, 03:23 PM   #1438
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As far as one can see form the pictures pubblished, the materials used for its construction seem to be of poor quality.
From pictures? Are you serious?
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From pictures? Are you serious?
Crack floor tiles are clearly visibile on the undergound station floor.
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Italian first to speak bad of your country and do not reflect the accuracy of this world, not even in other countries!
Please, stop the drama.

Local forumers are usually the first to point problems on their own systems on this infrastructure forumers, be them roads or railways. Usually they are even the most vocal critics because they deal with the systems on a frequent basis.
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