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Old January 6th, 2014, 09:48 PM   #1621
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2) They - technically speaking - are. Those trains run on 25kV AC, so almost every HSL in europe. But they aren't meant to go abroad: FrecciaRossa is a link between south and north-west of italy (i.e. from Salerno to Torino via Roma, Firenze, Bologna, Milano) only. There isn't - at the moment - any project to send them on cross-country lines.
Except you can't get out of Italy with 25 kV. No HS connection to France and the rest Switzerland and Austria use 15 kV.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 09:56 PM   #1622
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Except you can't get out of Italy with 25 kV. No HS connection to France and the rest Switzerland and Austria use 15 kV.
Yeah, that was my "technically speaking". There are no way to bring them abroad, because there are no lines to get there. That train can run on 3kV DC, but I don't think there are any HSL connected with our standard DC lines.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 10:22 PM   #1623
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thanks!

So it means Italy only for the next years because it's not possible at all to run under the voltage of the border to France/Suisse/Austria.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 11:39 PM   #1624
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So it means Italy only for the next years because it's not possible at all to run under the voltage of the border to France/Suisse/Austria.
Correct. Any train crossing the border must change the engine, just like it does now.

Actually, there are 2 kind of services that run all the way from Milan/Turin to Paris and from Milan to Suisse: the firts one uses a TGV and the second one the ETR610 "Cisalpino".

Both run under 3kV DC standard lines, and are capable of using the 1,5kV DC french standard and the 15kV AC suisse standard.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 11:57 PM   #1625
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Slovenia uses 3 kV DC as Italy, then there is the non electrified line to the Vatican City. Milan-Paris TGV Réseau sets also run on 25 kV AC.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 12:05 AM   #1626
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frecciarossa_1000

It says that ETR 1000 are able to run with 1,5kV DC french standard. On the collumn on the right side

so what now? Is it good for France?
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Old January 7th, 2014, 05:25 AM   #1627
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There are some speculation Italo will file another anti-competitive complaint against RFI. The first one was filled after they put a fence between Italo offices (a mix of costumer services and waiting area) and its platforms in Roma Ostiense, and allegedly stalled the completion of works in Roma Tiburtina using a fire as an excuse. They had also formally complaining about their refusal to allow more Italo ticket machines to be placed in Bologna and Napoli.

NTV lost € 86 million in 2012 and has pushed expectation of breaking even financially from 2015 to 2018. Part of it is for a good reason: Trenitalia dropped fares (or more precisely: increased the availability of its cheaper fares) and dragged Italo into a sort of price war, but NTV says it is staying for the long run.

From the Ferrovie forum, the previous situation (the fence was built around the time they opened the Casa Italo)

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After some flack, they opened a gate
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Old January 7th, 2014, 06:13 AM   #1628
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RFI playing dirty again...

To what extent is the Italian government (judiciary system?) complicit in allowing RFI to get away with such measures in the first place?
Well at least a price war means cheaper tickets for all
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Old January 7th, 2014, 11:05 AM   #1629
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frecciarossa_1000

It says that ETR 1000 are able to run with 1,5kV DC french standard. On the collumn on the right side

so what now? Is it good for France?
Actually, it can run also under 15kV AC, Austrian and Swiss standards.

Hence yes, it would be able to get everywhere. But I doubt it will... TrenItalia doesn't seem to be interested in crosscountry trains.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 02:39 PM   #1630
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The Zefiro is designed to be able to run udner 15 kV, however it is not clear if Trenitalia's version will, or if it will be possible to convert some of Trentialia's trains in the future.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 03:59 PM   #1631
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Actually, it can run also under 15kV AC, Austrian and Swiss standards.

Hence yes, it would be able to get everywhere. But I doubt it will... TrenItalia doesn't seem to be interested in crosscountry trains.
I could see Trenitalia operating on some routes. Trenitalia is planning to use its Thello brand for day time trains to France as well. But this will probably depend on if (and when) enough ETCS gets installed in France.
With Switzerland bringing the whole network under ETCS by 2017 they could easily run services to Switzerland...
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Italo collision

An AGV collided against a buffer at Napoli Centrale.

Source: La Repubblica

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Whoops. Reason given?
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Whoops. Reason given?
Nothing much said, except that it is likely to be due to 'human error'.

Press rumored brake failure, ItaloTreno dismissed it altogether.
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ItaloTreno trains calling at each station per day per direction

These are the numbers of trains calling at each ItaloTreno station (weekdays, per day, per direction)


Ancona - 3
Bologna Centrale - 22
Firenze Santa Maria Novella - 19
Milano Porta Garibaldi - 20
Milano Rogoredo - 20
Mediopadana - 6
Napoli Centrale - 11
Padova - 5
Pesaro - 3
Rimini - 3
Roma Ostiense - 11
Roma Tiburtina - 22
Salerno - 8
Torino Porta Susa - 8
Venezia Mestre - 5
Venezia Santa Lucia - 5
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Does Italo have reserves for cases like this, in order to keep up their timetable?
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Does Italo have reserves for cases like this, in order to keep up their timetable?
Yes, they have a fleet management program with spares (also needed for scheduled maintenance).

According to the newspaper, there was another AGV parked nearby and the replacement train departed almost on time.
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Old March 18th, 2014, 10:31 AM   #1639
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An AGV collided against a buffer at Napoli Centrale.

Source: La Repubblica

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the buffer did not even flinch
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Napoli Afragola station

After many delays and false-starts, there will be soon a new tender for the construction of station Napoli Afragola (location) on the high-speed line, whose works had been stopped.

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This station will be used by trains that do not begin/end their itineraries in Napoli. It will save a lot of time required on the final approach to Napoli Centrale and for reversing trains going further south.

There will be also a short extension of Circumvesuviana to the station.
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