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Old November 3rd, 2015, 04:59 PM   #1841
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New high speed NTV train sets



Pendolino trains under construction in Savigliano. Photo Jan Lindahl.

Alstom has won an order for eight Pendolino trains from the Italian railroad company NTV. The order also includes maintenance of the trains for twenty years.
The new trains will complement the NTV current fleet of 25 AGV trains -Italo, and will run on both conventional lines and high speed lines.

NTV's Pendolino trains have a top speed of 250 km / h and is part of Alstom Avelia range. The 187 meter long train will comprise seven carriages which can take about 500 passengers.

The trains will be manufactured at Alstom's plant in Savigliano, Italy, and the first train is expected deliveries completed in 2017. The maintenance will then be performed at the depot in Nola (Naples), which currently manages the maintenance of the Italo trains.

NTV is the first private operator of the Italian high-speed trains. The company began operations in 2012.
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Old November 7th, 2015, 06:45 AM   #1842
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Trenitalia planning Paris – Brussels high speed service

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EUROPE: Italian national operator Trenitalia has confirmed that it is holding preliminary discussions with its suppliers and relevant regulatory bodies regarding the possible launch of an open access high speed service between Paris and Brussels.

Speaking in Milano on October 28, Pietro Diamantini of FS Group's Passenger Division suggested that the route could be the first international corridor to use the V300 Zefiro trainsets which Trenitalia is currently receiving from a consortium of Bombardier and AnsaldoBreda. Trenitalia has ordered 50 of the eight-car multi-system high speed trains under a €1·6bn contract awarded in September 2010.
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Old November 9th, 2015, 08:29 PM   #1843
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I took tgv from paris to milan : 7- 8 hours
I don't know how long it will take with those trains
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Old November 9th, 2015, 09:31 PM   #1844
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Around 1h20 like the others.

I don't see the link with Paris-Milan TGVs. These use also slow mountain lines, beside linking much farther cities.

(Paris-Milan could be done in 6h30 if the TGVs used the Milan-Turin HSL, btw - they don't so because they are not equipped with ETCS)
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Old November 9th, 2015, 11:39 PM   #1845
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well there's the new Turin-Lyon Base tunnel that will be in place within the next ten years.
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Old November 10th, 2015, 09:24 AM   #1846
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(Paris-Milan could be done in 6h30 if the TGVs used the Milan-Turin HSL, btw - they don't so because they are not equipped with ETCS)

I wouldn't be surprised if we also saw at least one daily return trip between Milano and Paris. That way Trenitalia can avoid a long emtpy movement to rotate trainsets back to Italy for maintenance.
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Old November 10th, 2015, 08:33 PM   #1847
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Florence - Rome HSL to get new station?
Tuesday, November 10, 2015



THE results of a feasibility study led by Tuscany and Umbria into building a new station on the Florence - Rome high-speed line were presented to local mayors, chambers of commerce as well as Trenitalia, NTV and Italian Rail Network (RFI) officials on November 3

The two regions signed an MoU for the project in July 2014, and the report, presented by Mr Vincenzo Ceccarelli and Mr Giuseppe Chianella, the respective transport regional councillors of Tuscany and Umbria, recommend two locations for the station:
  • Rigutino, South of Arezzo and 100m from the Florence - Rome line and could result in the restoration of Frassineto station, and
  • Creti, in Cortona, a straight, flat and open section at Km175 in the Di Chiana valley
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Old December 13th, 2015, 09:29 PM   #1848
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ETR 1000 sets new Italian rail speed record

by Marco Chiandoni and Keith Fender

TRENITALIA's latest-generation high-speed train the Frecciarossa 1000 (ETR 1000) set a new Italian rail speed record on November 26, when one of the eight-car sets reached 389km/h during nocturnal testing on the Milan - Turin high-speed line.

In the coming weeks the trains will be tested at up to 400km/h in order to gain certification from the Italian National Agency of Railway Safety for 360km/h operation on selected sections, a process which requires validation of operation with a 10% safety margin.

The trains are currently limited to 300km/h as this is the maximum permitted speed on the Italian high-speed network, although some sections were designed to be upgraded to 350km/h operation.

The ETR 1000s are due to begin commercial operation at 350km/h next year, reducing the Rome - Milan journey time from 2h 55min to 2h 20min.

The fleet of 50 ETR 1000s is being supplied by a temporary consortium of Hitachi Rail Italy (formerly AnsaldoBreda), which has a 52% stake, and Bombardier (48%) under a €1.54bn contract awarded by in July 2010. Trenitalia's new flagship train was designed by Bertone and Hitachi Rail Italy is carrying out all project and production phases in association with Bombardier. The trains are being assembled at Hitachi's Pistoia plant.

The first six trains entered service on the Turin - Milan - Rome - Naples route in June 2015, and so far Trenitalia has received 15 trains. Deliveries will continue at the rate of two sets per month until the end of 2017. The delivery of the ETRs 1000s will enable Trenitalia to redeploy ETR 500 high-speed trains to other routes such as Milan – Venice and the Adriatic coast.

Thanks to its distributed traction, which provides an output of 9.8MW across all eight cars, Frecciarossa 1000 offers much better acceleration than its predecessor the ETR 500. Each 202m-long set seats 457 passengers, including two wheelchair spaces, with four classes of accommodation – executive, business, premium, and standard.

Operation of the trains outside Italy remains a medium-term objective for Trenitalia with Milan - Paris and Paris - Benelux open-access services considered to be the most likely options. Operation into Germany, Switzerland, or Austria is not currently planned - while the trains have passive provision for 15kV ac traction equipment this would require conversion work.

Frecciarossa 1000 is the first high-speed train to receive EPD environmental certification with CO2 emissions of 28g/km/passenger.
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Old December 18th, 2015, 12:28 AM   #1849
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NTV unveils next Italo Pendolino

ROME ITALY: Open access operator NTV has revealed the appearance of the eight 250 km/h Pendolino trainsets which it ordered from Alstom in October. Deliveries are scheduled for late 2017 and entry into service for early 2018.

The design was created by Alstom's Design & Styling Centre, which was responsible for NTV’s Italo-branded fleet of AGV high speed trains. The trainsets will be an evolution of the Pendolino family, modified to meet 2014 TSI regulations. Alstom said the ‘fire red’ trainsets would feature a ‘futuristic’ front end designed to provide crash protection. The seven-car trainsets will be 187 m long, with capacity for around 480 passengers. The interior styling is to be selected and unveiled in the coming months.

‘With more than 500 trainsets sold worldwide and over 1 000 million km achieved in commercial service, the Pendolino is one of Alstom's flagship products, made in Italy in our high-speed competence centre of Savigliano’, said Andreas Knitter, Senior Vice-President of Alstom Europe. ‘NTV's choice contributes to supporting the local industry, which we very much welcome.’





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Old December 18th, 2015, 04:34 PM   #1850
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So the new front part isn't only aesthetic, but also more shock-absorbent

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Old December 18th, 2015, 05:24 PM   #1851
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Interesting redesign, wonder if this redesign is only for NTV or will be offered to other carriers.
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Old December 18th, 2015, 08:15 PM   #1852
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It's not that different from the normal Pendolino design. The colour scheme makes it look very different. Nowadays train noses are rarely structural. They're just a frame with some fibreglass mouldings around it. So changing the moulding to make the train look a bit different is not that hard.
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Old December 18th, 2015, 10:52 PM   #1853
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It's not that different from the normal Pendolino design. The colour scheme makes it look very different. Nowadays train noses are rarely structural. They're just a frame with some fibreglass mouldings around it. So changing the moulding to make the train look a bit different is not that hard.
well actually U right! but sometimes it is "question of style" too...so even a little changing like a nose more aggressive or a stylish livery can make big difference and give a big success to a train ....the exact contrary of this one


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Old December 18th, 2015, 10:53 PM   #1854
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The V250 has one of the most beautiful front designs of any high speed train ever made!
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Old December 18th, 2015, 11:17 PM   #1855
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The V250 has one of the most beautiful front designs of any high speed train ever made!
my dear...i don't know if are U ironic, but I respect any opinion, actually I'm more then sure that at least in Italy a train like that couldn't ever fit to our standard of style and beauty
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Old December 18th, 2015, 11:23 PM   #1856
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Speaking of V250, I think NTV should buy them at a discount price and use them for higher (if not high, since they are limited to 249km/h) speed services.
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Old December 19th, 2015, 12:50 AM   #1857
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Speaking of V250, I think NTV should buy them at a discount price and use them for higher (if not high, since they are limited to 249km/h) speed services.
Given the history of those ... trains, I suspect that there isn't a rail operator in the entire EU willing to purchase them for any price.
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Given the history of those ... trains, I suspect that there isn't a rail operator in the entire EU willing to purchase them for any price.
I think u right or at least after purchase them spent extra money to give first of all a new look external and internal and then a technical check just to forget an unsuccessful past

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Old December 19th, 2015, 04:47 PM   #1859
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The V250 has one of the most beautiful front designs of any high speed train ever made!
for the 1960es, yes.
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The V250 has one of the most beautiful front designs of any high speed train ever made!
Not this shit again. Stop trolling.
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