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Old March 29th, 2014, 11:19 AM   #1221
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Typical example for corrupt police in Republika Srpska, unfortunately this is still a problematic entity (I'm not talking about the civil population)... I usually don't generalize, but I have experience with this wannabe-country.
In 2003, I have driven a lot in BiH and especially RS, and had no problems at all. But then I drove in a car with BiH-plates.
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What kind of discussion if you don'T have all necesery equipment you pay fine, or you bribe. Corruption however worked good for you.
The discussion about the height of a fine: 50 without and 150 with a receipt. That is formally unusual in almost every country. Paying on the spot is generally cheaper, but not that much cheaper.
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Old March 29th, 2014, 11:56 AM   #1222
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When?
It all says here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1687231


Guys, can you please try to keep this thread politics-free?
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Old March 29th, 2014, 12:51 PM   #1223
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The discussion about the height of a fine: 50 without and 150 with a receipt. That is formally unusual in almost every country. Paying on the spot is generally cheaper, but not that much cheaper.
Well why didn't you then pay later if you had your doubts? Why did you decide to bribe them?
I mean people who bribe police say that police officers are bad and they bribe them. If you made mistake then you pay for it.
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Old March 29th, 2014, 01:14 PM   #1224
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I wrote before why I paid immidiately.
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Old March 29th, 2014, 06:43 PM   #1225
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No politics indeed

It is very obvious that some of the people here have different opinions...
This is a forum about roads and such not about politics.
I'm sorry for fueling the wrong discussion.

@BL2 what have I ever done to you that you must say that I'm talking sh..?
If you can't behave don't bother because you try convince me otherwise but with such langauge you do not convince me at all.
Thanks for your opinion never the less.
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Old March 29th, 2014, 06:48 PM   #1226
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@BL2 what have I ever done to you that you must say that I'm talking sh..?
If you can't behave don't bother because you try convince me otherwise but with such langauge you do not convince me at all.
Thanks for your opinion never the less.
You obviously misinterpret my words, it wasn't your words i was commenting, but tip your frined gave you. That tip is pure BS.
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Old April 12th, 2014, 02:40 PM   #1227
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There is no way Drivusa-Biljesevo (which includes construction of 3km long Vijenac tunnel) is going to be finished in this month, maybe March or April. Vogosca-Vlakovo (acctually Butile-Vlakovo, because Vogosca-Butile is already finished) section's deadline is mid-summer, I think June, and it should be finished by that time. They are late two months on Svilaj-Odzak section (near border with Croatia) so the construction has just started and I can't tell you much. It also includes building of one big Svilaj border checkpoint. All the other sections should I think be finished when planned.

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There's my current list:

A1: Drivusa – Biljesevo 12 6.5km (August 2010 to Spring 2014) – projectmap
A1: Vlakovo – Lepenica 12 10.2km (January 2013 to April 2014) – projectmap
A1: Josanica – Butila 12 5.7km (July 2013 to June 2014) – projectmap
A1: Butila – Vlakovo 12 3.9km (October 2010 to June 2014) – projectmap
A1: Zvirovici – Zvirici 12 9.1km (October 2010 to June 2014) – projectmap
A1: Lepenica – Tarcin 12 10.1km (June 2012 to July 2014) – projectmap
A1: Svilaj – Odzak 12 11.0km (September 2013 to November 2014) – projectmap
?: Butila (A1) – Brijesce 12 3.5km (October 2010 to ?) – projectmap


Any news about completion of the Drivusa – Biljesevo section?
According to the latest pics I guess the Vlakovo – Lepenica section will not been opened in April 2014, won't it?

Are there any updated information about the other sections?

Updated list:
A1: Drivusa – Biljesevo 12 6.5km (August 2010 to Late May 2014) – projectmap
A1: Josanica – Butila 12 5.7km (October 2007 to June 2014) – projectmap
A1: Butila – Vlakovo 12 3.9km (July 2013 to June 2014) – projectmap
A1: Zvirovici – Zvirici 12 9.1km (October 2010 to June 2014) – projectmap
A1: Vlakovo – Lepenica 12 10.2km (January 2013 to August 2014) – projectmap
A1: Lepenica – Tarcin 12 10.1km (June 2012 to October 2014) – projectmap
A1: Svilaj – Odzak 12 11.0km (November 2013 to November 2014) – projectmap
?: Butila (A1) – Brijesce 12 3.5km (October 2010 to December 2014) – projectmap
?: Prnjavor – Johovac 2 12 36.6km (May 2013 to November 2015) – projectmap
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Old April 12th, 2014, 06:55 PM   #1228
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the red months are only finish or open?
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Old April 12th, 2014, 06:58 PM   #1229
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Estimated opening date.
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Old April 12th, 2014, 08:30 PM   #1230
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There's my current list:

Any news about completion of the Drivusa – Biljesevo section?
According to the latest pics I guess the Vlakovo – Lepenica section will not been opened in April 2014, won't it?

Are there any updated information about the other sections?
I really do not know where you get your dates from. Some are totally ridiculous.

A1: Drivusa – Biljesevo 6.5km (August 2010 to Spring 2014)Due date is end of May should be open before the end of spring 2014.


A1: Josanica – Butila 5.7km finished over a year ago will open June 2014 with Butila – Vlakovo
A1- Butila – Vlakovo 3.9km (June 2013 to June 2014)Where did you get October 2010 start date it started in June 2013? Its opening in June with Josanica – Butila


A1: Vlakovo – Lepenica 12 10.2km (January 2013 to August 2014)IF the start date was January 2013 and construction time is 20 months you tell me what the finish date should be


A1: Bijaca - Kravice - Zvirovici 9.1km (September 2011 to June 2014) Bijaca - Kravice finished last year but is waiting for next section to open June/July2014


A1: Lepenica – Tarcin 12 10.1km (June 2012 to October 2014)If work started 08/06/2012 and its due in 28 months when should the due date be? October 2014


A1: Svilaj – Odzak 12 11.0km (November 2013 to November 2014)

?: Butila (A1) – Brijesce 12 3.5km (May 2011 to December 2014)

You are also missing Prnjavor - Doboj (November 2012 - November 2015
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Old April 12th, 2014, 09:36 PM   #1231
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I really do not know where you get your dates from. Some are totally ridiculous.
http://www.statistika.ba/?show=10&id=0

Edit: I think the list has been updated since last January.

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Old April 13th, 2014, 11:54 AM   #1232
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Oh, and considering Banja Luka-Doboj highway, construction of the second 36km long Banja Luka-Prnjavor section (180mil €) is planned to start in March this year. Deadline is mid-2017.
Has the construction already been started?
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Old April 13th, 2014, 11:56 AM   #1233
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Has the construction already been started?
Unfortunately not, but it's expected to start soon.
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Old April 13th, 2014, 12:01 PM   #1234
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Old April 13th, 2014, 03:18 PM   #1235
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http://www.statistika.ba/?show=10&id=0

Edit: I think the list has been updated since last January.
I posted the correct date of start/expected finish added the JP Autoceste source and you still use the wrong dates which do not come even from the source you published. If you want to be taken seriously then stop using the wrong data.

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Old April 13th, 2014, 04:36 PM   #1236
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I posted the correct date of start/expected finish added the JP Autoceste source and you still use the wrong dates which do not come even from the source you published. If you want to be taken seriously then stop using the wrong data.
I don't use the completion dates but the opening dates when the section goes in service.

Maybe I am too stupid but I could only find one fault: The construciton of the Josanica – Butila section was started in October 2007.
According to the official page the Butila - Briješče section was started in October 2010 but you wrote May 2011...

What else is still wrong?
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Old April 13th, 2014, 08:36 PM   #1237
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I don't use the completion dates but the opening dates when the section goes in service.

Maybe I am too stupid but I could only find one fault: The construciton of the Josanica – Butila section was started in October 2007.
According to the official page the Butila - Briješče section was started in October 2010 but you wrote May 2011...The work started when the when the contractor was able to enter construction site that is the date the contract starts. Not when politicians announce it.

What else is still wrong?
You had 7 errors originally.
Read my post, its not hard, I put the start dates (when work started) and expected finish (in service).

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I really do not know where you get your dates from. Some are totally ridiculous.

A1: Drivusa – Biljesevo 6.5km (August 2010 to Spring 2014)Due date is end of May should be open before the end of spring 2014.

A1: Josanica – Butila 5.7km finished over a year ago will open June 2014 with Butila – Vlakovo
A1- Butila – Vlakovo 3.9km (June 2013 to June 2014)Where did you get October 2010 start date it started in June 2013? Its opening in June with Josanica – Butila

A1: Vlakovo – Lepenica 12 10.2km (January 2013 to August 2014)IF the start date was January 2013 and construction time is 20 months you tell me what the finish date should be

A1: Bijaca - Kravice - Zvirovici 9.1km (September 2011 to June 2014) Bijaca - Kravice finished last year but is waiting for next section to open June/July2014

A1: Lepenica – Tarcin 12 10.1km (June 2012 to October 2014)If work started 08/06/2012 and its due in 28 months when should the due date be? October 2014

A1: Svilaj – Odzak 12 11.0km (November 2013 to November 2014)

?: Butila (A1) – Brijesce 12 3.5km (May 2011 to December 2014)

You are also missing Prnjavor - Doboj (November 2012 - November 2015
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You had 7 errors originally.
Read my post, its not hard, I put the start dates (when work started) and expected finish (in service).
I've updated my list meanwhile: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=211 . I will update Butila - Briješče construction begin (October 2010) next time.
As mentioned before I guess the list has been updated since last January. I haven't checked it yesterday b/c I haven't expected that beginning dates and construction times have been changed .
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Old April 13th, 2014, 09:13 PM   #1239
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Old April 15th, 2014, 10:36 PM   #1240
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I've driven quite a bit in Bosnia and never had problems with the police in either entity.

But quite frankly, I wouldn't pay 50 euro as a bribe in that part of the world. I was stopped for blasting through a stop sign in Montenegro as well as stopped for not having lights on in Serbia - and both times, they accepted 10 Euro "without receipt". Serbia took a bit of arguing, but in general - they don't want the hassle.

The Serbian police gave up after I told them in Polish that they could either take 10 Euro and we could both get on our way, or we could waste our time going to the police station.

In Bosnia, what is the law surrounding fines? Can they hold your registration until you pay, or should you simply accept the fine and pay it later?

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