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Old February 2nd, 2008, 03:53 PM   #121
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An architectural competition for the high-rises is a good idea if they chose my favorite (!), as what posted in the rendering didn't look too promising! But hope they stay positive to high-rises. This area is closer to downtown areas, and has their own nimbys.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 10:45 AM   #122
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Some high-rises in Skien

The middle size town of Skien (about 50 000 residents) has 2 high-rise proposals, one 14 floors hotel in the centre:
Even after getting approved by the city council it faces difficulties, its now up to the enviromentalministry to reject an appeal by the culturalprotectorothorities(riksantikvaren) because it's in conflict with the church and the original structural plan for the town.

Outside the centre, in Borgestad næringspark, a 16 floor office building is planned and its according to the townplans to have a high-rise here and i don't think it will be a problem for it to get approval
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Old February 6th, 2008, 11:25 PM   #123
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The middle size town of Skien (about 50 000 residents) has 2 high-rise proposals, one 14 floors hotel in the centre:
Even after getting approved by the city council it faces difficulties, its now up to the enviromentalministry to reject an appeal by the culturalprotectorothorities(riksantikvaren) because it's in conflict with the church and the original structural plan for the town.

Outside the centre, in Borgestad næringspark, a 16 floor office building is planned and its according to the townplans to have a high-rise here and i don't think it will be a problem for it to get approval
Great news for Skien! The twin-city of Porsgrunn-Skien needs some buildings of height to cut through as landmarks, to really state that the greater-Grenland area is one of the largest in the country!
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Old February 7th, 2008, 12:01 AM   #124
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^ Maybe i got their article all wrong, but it sais 6000 residents in 970 apartments!

Btw, a vision high-rise project, very new one actually! Some futuristic center for tourism, with museums, hotels etc. and the place to continue the trip up on Folgefonna Glacier! The idea is that tourism is been transported up here by helicopters down at the fjord, so there is no need for a road to destroy the surrounding nature.



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Old February 10th, 2008, 05:18 PM   #125
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The middle size town of Skien (about 50 000 residents) has 2 high-rise proposals, one 14 floors hotel in the centre:
Even after getting approved by the city council it faces difficulties, its now up to the enviromentalministry to reject an appeal by the culturalprotectorothorities(riksantikvaren) because it's in conflict with the church and the original structural plan for the town.
Its good news that it finally got approved, but this Ibsenhuset high-rise project has been going on for a long time, from a dead project several times, so close approvals.

But its not really deceided yet, politicians with FRP/AP goes for the 14 floor tall one, while H wants the 12 floor proposal.

Btw, a interesting article about the Skien high-rise: «Motstander» ble tilhenger

The high-rise as seen from the few renderings we have today, could use a fresh-up to fit Skien much more though, but i hope they will present some finer renderings soon.

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Old February 12th, 2008, 04:20 PM   #126
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Arthur Buchart wants to beat Turning Torso:

http://sydsvenskan.se/ekonomi/article300519.ece


"Det 190 meter höga Turning Torso kan om sex år förlora titeln som Nordens högsta hus.

Norske byggherren och finansmannen Arthur Buchardt har planer på att bygga ett ännu högre hus i Oslo via sitt bolag Öyer Invest.

Det skriver nyhetsbrevet Fastighetsvärlden på tisdagen.
– Det ska bli 200 meter och invigas den 17 maj 2014, vilket är 200-årsjubileet för när den norska grundlagen antogs. "
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Old February 12th, 2008, 04:32 PM   #127
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I would love that!! But i don't dare to believe it....
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Old February 12th, 2008, 05:33 PM   #128
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I would love that!! But i don't dare to believe it....
I think it's up to the politicians in Oslo if it'll be built or not. Buchardt has got the cash. Just look at the Hotel in Kista that probably will be built.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 05:36 PM   #129
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I think it's up to the politicians in Oslo if it'll be built or not. Buchardt has got the cash. Just look at the Hotel in Kista that probably will be built.
Well the politicians in todays norwegian newspapers have been negative!
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Well the politicians in todays norwegian newspapers have been negative!
Really? Why?
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Old February 12th, 2008, 05:44 PM   #131
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Really? Why?

"200 meter er langt høyere enn hva det er gitt politiske signaler om hva en kan akseptere i Oslo, sier Dagny Gärtner Hovig, informasjonssjef i Oslo plan og bygning til Dagbladet.no."

And Buchardt doesn't seem to want to stand by his statement made in Sweden.
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"200 meter er langt høyere enn hva det er gitt politiske signaler om hva en kan akseptere i Oslo, sier Dagny Gärtner Hovig, informasjonssjef i Oslo plan og bygning til Dagbladet.no."
This isn't good signals, but maybe things will change when Buchardt comes with a nice render.

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And Buchardt doesn't seem to want to stand by his statement made in Sweden.
Well, that's not very surprising. He probably wants to wait with his official announcement.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 06:13 PM   #133
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I have strong doubts about this. Buchardt is famous for skyscraper proposals with now reality contact.. Maybe 100-150 m, but never 200.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 07:47 PM   #134
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This sounds like some serious BS! Maybe in some great city, but Oslo? I have no doubts about the profits, since it would be competely booked 24/7. Still absolutly no plots in Oslo exists for this, and if one did exists, it wouldn't be passed if every city council-member in Oslo were payed a million each. Some of the surrounding municipals are a bit more likely, but... This is just dreaming. Imagination. Won't happen until we all are dead.

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Old February 12th, 2008, 10:40 PM   #135
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We will just have to wait and see. At least he gets a lot of publicity, i'm afraid that maybe that's all he want. If it's for real, i'm very excited to see it. How "green" can a tower that tall be? Also interesting to see where he wants it build!
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Old February 28th, 2008, 03:41 PM   #136
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Critics to new proposed twin towers in Bergen

In Norwegian:
Arkitekt og storbyveteran Todd Saunders fikk latterkrampe over «twin towers» i Sandviken.

- Det virker som alle prøver å bli som New York, men dette prosjektet har ingenting med virkeligheten å gjøre, sier arkitekt Todd Sauders om Lerøys planer om høyhus i Sandviken . Saunders har bodd i Norge i ti år, og at valget falt på Bergen var ikke tilfeldig.

- Bergen er unik nettopp fordi man ikke prøver å bli identisk med USA, sier han.

- Et slikt bygg har enorme skygger som må tegnes inn.

- Dette bygge vil komme midt i sjøhusrekken og ødelegge sjøutsikten for mange.

- Vi blir rett og slett forskrekket om kommunen går inn for dette prosjektet.

Interested, read more here.

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Old February 28th, 2008, 03:54 PM   #137
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I don't belive in that Sandviken proposal for a second=P Chances are even bigger that Surnadal would get a 100m tower=P

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Old February 28th, 2008, 04:27 PM   #138
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^ Yes, will never get built, and i don't really care. If Bergen should get a taller high-rise building is should be something more extraordinary, suchs as the Møllendal highrise, which was rejected as well.
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Old February 29th, 2008, 11:21 AM   #139
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Right, but every high-rise build is a victory against high-rise critics :P Buildings like these tend to grow on most people too. It would be great, but it's not realistic. I didn't realize Bergen (and all other towns) had such a large history of declining tall buildings, because i only payed attention too high-rise discussions for about a year. Sad to see great projects going in the garbage just because they are tall. Looking foreword to see how the new fløyfjellet cabin will look irl, tough. It will be a real cool landmark for Bergen i hope!
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Old February 29th, 2008, 03:52 PM   #140
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Yeah. Trondheim have strangely not been that bad, as two bigger highrise projects have been approved, but cancelled due to finance issues, or such as the Lerkendal Tower deal (approved 75m/20 fl), no need for offices or another hotel (that was in early 2002), by 2005 Trondheim was in great need of office space and in even bigger need of more hotel capacity, as they was planning at Lerkendal.



More space than needed is always better than just enough space, since up and down periods seem to come surprisingly nowadays, and doesn't last too long. In Norway we have been having great need of residentials in many cities, and offices and hotels in others, but we're too slow to react, and the good times is over before we get the buildings up!
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