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Old June 25th, 2014, 08:08 PM   #601
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Blue = motorways

Green = Route Nationale (National roads)

White = Route Departementale (Regional and local roads)
Not quite, I think. Green is the "réseau vert" or "green network," very like British primary routes in that they're meant to connect certain key points. I think it's possible for a national route to be off the réseau vert. At least that was the case when I started paying attention to this stuff around 2004. Since then, the central government has offloaded a lot of national routes to the départements, though....
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Old June 25th, 2014, 08:10 PM   #602
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What about Italy? The superstrade have a symbol similar to that of a motorway in the "blue" countries. Also the roads look pretty much like motorways in many countries...

In other words, a question arises about how to define a motorway in countries that use a language other than English. In many cases this is pretty clear, but not in all.
For that matter, there's the problem of terminology in English. That's why I'm using "motorway" on this forum, even though most Americans probably don't know it and never use it: avoids the whole freeway/expressway thing.
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Old June 25th, 2014, 08:34 PM   #603
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Same as in Switzerland. Worse: they also carry a motorway sign, even though there's only one lane in each direction.
the weirdest thing in Switzerland is green expressway sign actually
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Old June 25th, 2014, 09:39 PM   #604
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But still the superstrade have the same "motorway" sign.

On the other hand the colour doesn't always tell - for instance in Finland and Sweden also expressways (moottoriliikennetiet, motortrafikvägar) have the same green as motorways - just without the "motorway" sign but with a "car" sign instead. Despite being usually single carriage roads.
This is the most natural interpretation of the text of Vienna Convention on Road Signs and Signals. It posts similar rules for both motorways and "roads for motor vehicles". The signs should be either blue or green.

The text is open to other interpretations, too: It does not state that these signs must be of the same color. Thus signing motorways on green and roads for motor vehicles on blue is acceptable.
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Old June 25th, 2014, 11:36 PM   #605
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In Serbia blue signs are for expressways.
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Old June 26th, 2014, 01:02 AM   #606
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Just like it's always (well, usually) green here. We don't use the chopsticks symbol or any other at all, by the way.
California does have those green "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" signs though, that seem to be used in the exact same way as the chopsticks one... it's odd since you are basically screwed once you pass it if you can't or don't want to be on freeway (same as chopsticks)
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Old June 26th, 2014, 04:27 AM   #607
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In Thailand, on normal highways, we normally have green signs. Blue signs are used on normal highways to indicate the entrance to expressways (toll roads). Once you get on expressways, the signs turn back to green.

Personally I prefer blue signs.
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Old June 26th, 2014, 02:37 PM   #608
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This is the most natural interpretation of the text of Vienna Convention on Road Signs and Signals. It posts similar rules for both motorways and "roads for motor vehicles". The signs should be either blue or green.

The text is open to other interpretations, too: It does not state that these signs must be of the same color. Thus signing motorways on green and roads for motor vehicles on blue is acceptable.
In Norway we actually changed our approach. "Motortrafikkveger" now have yellow signs. They used to be blue like the "motorveg" ones. Earlier, they were even referred to as "motorveg klasse B" - i.e. B-class motorway.
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Portugal to Belarus = Blue Banana
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In Norway we actually changed our approach. "Motortrafikkveger" now have yellow signs. They used to be blue like the "motorveg" ones. Earlier, they were even referred to as "motorveg klasse B" - i.e. B-class motorway.
Seems logical, the Norwegian colour scheme is copied from Germany anyway
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In Norway we actually changed our approach. "Motortrafikkveger" now have yellow signs. They used to be blue like the "motorveg" ones. Earlier, they were even referred to as "motorveg klasse B" - i.e. B-class motorway.
Yes. Nothing is easier than to deviate from the articles of the Vienna Convention. Just send a letter to someone telling we are not any more bound by certain articles.

I am not completely happy with the Vienna Convention gradually turning obsolete, because it encourages the member states inventing new traffic signs and rules. Norway has invented a number of new signs related to toll roads, as well as a sign for a HOV lane. Sweden has this very interesting sign:


Estonia list a number of car accessories mandatory even for the foreigners. German has almost lost their sense around the local environment zones. If you drive into France, you have to carry an alcometer, etc.
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Seems logical, the Norwegian colour scheme is copied from Germany anyway
German follows kind of a hybrid model: The entry and the exit signs for a Kraftfahrstraße are blue (like a motorway) but the direction signs are yellow (like a non-motorway).
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Ausfahrt signs are in yellow as well.
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Yes. Nothing is easier than to deviate from the articles of the Vienna Convention. Just send a letter to someone telling we are not any more bound by certain articles.

I am not completely happy with the Vienna Convention gradually turning obsolete, because it encourages the member states inventing new traffic signs and rules. Norway has invented a number of new signs related to toll roads, as well as a sign for a HOV lane. Sweden has this very interesting sign:


Estonia list a number of car accessories mandatory even for the foreigners. German has almost lost their sense around the local environment zones. If you drive into France, you have to carry an alcometer, etc.
whaada xxxx is that sign?

you need an alcometer in France? The vin is good but not so good!
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In Brazil they're green:

Blue for road numbering.

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South Africa has both blue and green. Blue for motorways and green for smaller roads:

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Portugal to Belarus = Blue Banana
Are Norway and Austria-Hungary the peel on the banana?
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whaada xxxx is that sign?

you need an alcometer in France? The vin is good but not so good!
The wine is great.
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South Africa has both blue and green. Blue for motorways and green for smaller roads:
Like UK....
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whaada xxxx is that sign?
It's a supplementary sign used with the general warning sign or crosswalk sign. It means blind people or people with bad eyesight are common near the sign.



There's also this one, which means deaf or people with hard of hearing.



They're very rare signs though, I only know of one, which I saw in the neighbouring city.
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