Projects Gossip: Proposals for the UAE - Page 5

Dubai-Lover · September 27th, 2004, 06:24 PM

pretty sure about that too, ahmed

it would be a bit boring to only have these let's call them "mid-rises". there has to be a landmark tower, just like almas in jlt

***AltinD*** · September 27th, 2004, 08:03 PM

I don't know if it has annything to do with it, but Khaleej Times had a strange full page ad. A full page in brown colour with "Location, Location, Location" written on it and there was a texture that looked like e building shape.

Also on the last page it was a ad for EMAAR. It had a rendering of a 20 - 30 storey Marina tower with podium, in clasic Emaar style, and saying something about tomorrow. I haven't seen that rendering, so maybe that particular new building will be released for sale tomorrow.

juiced · September 27th, 2004, 08:52 PM

I don't think the EMAAR ad is a rendering, the building (atleast on the outside) has been completed already, although I might be wrong.

I'll have a closer look at the Marina tomorrow morning

Dubai-Lover · September 27th, 2004, 09:53 PM

very excited! will check tomorrow's news and we'll see

juiced · September 28th, 2004, 02:22 PM

Yep the tower has already been completed, buyers move in early 2005

Krazy · September 28th, 2004, 05:12 PM

Abu Dhabi, Volkswagen plan nine projects

Gulf News Staff Reporter

Abu Dhabi : Abu Dhabi's planned industrial projects with German carmaker Volkswagen is right on track, government officials said here yesterday.

An 18-member Volkswagen delegation is due in Abu Dhabi today to chalk out the overall investment strategy with Abu Dhabi government officials.

A new joint venture holding company with an initial capital base of Dh500 million will soon be created by both the parties to set up nine new industrial units at the new automobiles manufacturing free zone planned in Abu Dhabi emirate.

Total investment for all the nine projects has been estimated to range between Dh2-Dh5 billion.

But Volkswagen's share purchase by Abu Dhabi has been put off for the time being as both sides could not agree on the share price, an official confirmed.

"We have identified nine industrial projects that will manufacture various vehicle components for Volkswagan's new models and for other car manufacturers all to be set up in the new industrial free zone created for automobiles components," said Hussain Al Nuwais, chairman of Emirates Holdings and Board Member of Abu Dhabi Securities Market (ADSM), who has been close to the negotiations.

"Volkswagen will remain our strategic investor in all the projects."

He said they will also cater to other manufacturers and the facilities will have flexible production capabilites that could be customised for different models and brands.

Dubai-Lover · September 28th, 2004, 06:29 PM

result of globalisation

not good for germany as car industry let's the country survive and another part will be taken abroad, but good for abu dhabi!

germany pays the price more and more for their mismanagement and way of policy.
companies like these move abroad for financial reasons and for employment reasons. life in germany becomes more expensive everyday and has totally different prices. eg gas for you car. in my town it costs 1.19 euro per litre. 10km away it only costs 1.10 euro! SOOOOO STUPID!

we now have up to 5 million unemployed people and number is still growing. i see germany falling in a big hole. and it won't get any better without keeping big companies in our country or renew our laws.

everywhere you go, you will be killed by bureaucracy!

but i'm still happy for abu dhabi, it's germany's fault and we have to deal with it! that's it!

***AltinD*** · September 28th, 2004, 06:45 PM

America has a bigger problem that Europe does. Not only industry but even services are being outsourced now days.

Dubai-Lover · September 28th, 2004, 07:00 PM

this may be true, but i can just give a statement for germany. don't know the exact conditions in usa, and i can't estimate them so i better don't give a statement about them.

i just know that german founded companies head to all over the world but not germany.

problems start with education and end in complicating paper work for copanies and managers, so their decision is clear. if workers get half payment in rumania hungary or whereever, why pay german workers double-prices for the same work?!

it goes even that far that AUDI has a factory in hungary, close to austrian border and 400km away from audi foundation and main factory!!! car parts will be sent to hungary for construction of the car and the completed car comes back to germany for sale! it is cheaper to build a factoy in hungary, sent all materials there and pay wages for hungarians, than just constructing the car at home!!!!! can you believe this!

then you have to say that hungary gives companies from abroad support in investment, tax,....

all this means: BYE BYE GERMANY!!!

juiced · September 28th, 2004, 07:11 PM

And that's why France is so keen on new EU member countries raising their taxes so they aren't as competitive

***AltinD*** · September 28th, 2004, 07:21 PM

You forget the VW's factory in Bratislava where Touareg, the body of the (Porsche) Cayenne, the Golf R32 and the Polo are build, the new Audi Q7 (4x4) will be build there as well.

Actually in Hungary are build mostly Audi engines, but the next TT will be build exclusively overthere.

As for the France's request, the cheaper labour is more of a attraction then tax brakes, however they are a considerable factor as well.

Dubai-Lover · September 28th, 2004, 07:23 PM

right, i know! hungary was just an example for how close outsorcing can be to germany! and they produce the tt there! correct

Dubai-Lover · September 30th, 2004, 07:17 AM

now abu shabi is going for some serious stuff!!!

AD, USD270m rebuilding tenders
The Abu Dhabi Government is tendering 50 residential and commercial projects valued at USD270m, all of them to replace existing buildings, reported Gulf News. For next year this budget allocation is set to double to USD540m for 100 projects, said officials.

Krazy · September 30th, 2004, 08:35 AM

source?

Krazy · September 30th, 2004, 09:04 AM

Palm II Residential Development

Dubai-Lover · September 30th, 2004, 01:07 PM

ameinfo

Dubai-Lover · September 30th, 2004, 01:10 PM

recognized this one on the atkins site, but as no info i didn't start a thread for this yet. have to wait for this to being approved

Face81 · September 30th, 2004, 04:40 PM

Same information appeared in the Gulf News as well. I am guessing that the majority of the money will be invested in further developing the Oil Industry, the defence sector and generally improving the infrastructure in the Emirate of Abu Dhabi; i.e, roads, sewage works, greenery, corniche reclaimation work, etc.

I am sure that some will be invested in tourism projects, but I doubt that any of them will be on the scale of what Dubai has undertaken so far. Just my opinion. They dont need to build that sort of stuff, just yet anyway.

-Face81

Krazy · September 30th, 2004, 05:04 PM

"residential and commercial projects" dont include Oil Industry, the defence sector, sewage works, roads etc. in my opinion. Corniche reclaimation work has separate amount of money assigned to it. Lets hope for the best.

Trances · October 1st, 2004, 12:27 AM

its nice but hardly land mark

September 27th, 2004, 06:24 PM	#81
Dubai-Lover Construction Paradise Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dubai (UAE) \| Oehringen (GER) \| Bad Honnef (GER) Posts: 12,678 Likes (Received): 0	pretty sure about that too, ahmed it would be a bit boring to only have these let's call them "mid-rises". there has to be a landmark tower, just like almas in jlt __________________ Updates - Dubai on Emporis

September 27th, 2004, 09:53 PM	#84
Dubai-Lover Construction Paradise Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dubai (UAE) \| Oehringen (GER) \| Bad Honnef (GER) Posts: 12,678 Likes (Received): 0	very excited! will check tomorrow's news and we'll see __________________ Updates - Dubai on Emporis

September 28th, 2004, 05:12 PM	#86
Krazy Kool Kat Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 13,625 Likes (Received): 1	Abu Dhabi, Volkswagen plan nine projects Gulf News Staff Reporter Abu Dhabi : Abu Dhabi's planned industrial projects with German carmaker Volkswagen is right on track, government officials said here yesterday. An 18-member Volkswagen delegation is due in Abu Dhabi today to chalk out the overall investment strategy with Abu Dhabi government officials. A new joint venture holding company with an initial capital base of Dh500 million will soon be created by both the parties to set up nine new industrial units at the new automobiles manufacturing free zone planned in Abu Dhabi emirate. Total investment for all the nine projects has been estimated to range between Dh2-Dh5 billion. But Volkswagen's share purchase by Abu Dhabi has been put off for the time being as both sides could not agree on the share price, an official confirmed. "We have identified nine industrial projects that will manufacture various vehicle components for Volkswagan's new models and for other car manufacturers all to be set up in the new industrial free zone created for automobiles components," said Hussain Al Nuwais, chairman of Emirates Holdings and Board Member of Abu Dhabi Securities Market (ADSM), who has been close to the negotiations. "Volkswagen will remain our strategic investor in all the projects." He said they will also cater to other manufacturers and the facilities will have flexible production capabilites that could be customised for different models and brands. __________________ Save Dubai's Workers! Click here and sign the petition!

September 28th, 2004, 06:29 PM	#87
Dubai-Lover Construction Paradise Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dubai (UAE) \| Oehringen (GER) \| Bad Honnef (GER) Posts: 12,678 Likes (Received): 0	result of globalisation not good for germany as car industry let's the country survive and another part will be taken abroad, but good for abu dhabi! germany pays the price more and more for their mismanagement and way of policy. companies like these move abroad for financial reasons and for employment reasons. life in germany becomes more expensive everyday and has totally different prices. eg gas for you car. in my town it costs 1.19 euro per litre. 10km away it only costs 1.10 euro! SOOOOO STUPID! we now have up to 5 million unemployed people and number is still growing. i see germany falling in a big hole. and it won't get any better without keeping big companies in our country or renew our laws. everywhere you go, you will be killed by bureaucracy! but i'm still happy for abu dhabi, it's germany's fault and we have to deal with it! that's it! __________________ Updates - Dubai on Emporis

September 28th, 2004, 07:00 PM	#89
Dubai-Lover Construction Paradise Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dubai (UAE) \| Oehringen (GER) \| Bad Honnef (GER) Posts: 12,678 Likes (Received): 0	this may be true, but i can just give a statement for germany. don't know the exact conditions in usa, and i can't estimate them so i better don't give a statement about them. i just know that german founded companies head to all over the world but not germany. problems start with education and end in complicating paper work for copanies and managers, so their decision is clear. if workers get half payment in rumania hungary or whereever, why pay german workers double-prices for the same work?! it goes even that far that AUDI has a factory in hungary, close to austrian border and 400km away from audi foundation and main factory!!! car parts will be sent to hungary for construction of the car and the completed car comes back to germany for sale! it is cheaper to build a factoy in hungary, sent all materials there and pay wages for hungarians, than just constructing the car at home!!!!! can you believe this! then you have to say that hungary gives companies from abroad support in investment, tax,.... all this means: BYE BYE GERMANY!!! __________________ Updates - Dubai on Emporis

September 27th, 2004, 08:03 PM	#82
*AltinD* The Modecator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tiranë / DUBAI / Vienna Posts: 29,779 Likes (Received): 555	I don't know if it has annything to do with it, but Khaleej Times had a strange full page ad. A full page in brown colour with "Location, Location, Location" written on it and there was a texture that looked like e building shape. Also on the last page it was a ad for EMAAR. It had a rendering of a 20 - 30 storey Marina tower with podium, in clasic Emaar style, and saying something about tomorrow. I haven't seen that rendering, so maybe that particular new building will be released for sale tomorrow.

September 27th, 2004, 08:52 PM	#83
juiced go with the flow Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,927 Likes (Received): 0	I don't think the EMAAR ad is a rendering, the building (atleast on the outside) has been completed already, although I might be wrong. I'll have a closer look at the Marina tomorrow morning

September 28th, 2004, 02:22 PM	#85
juiced go with the flow Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,927 Likes (Received): 0	Yep the tower has already been completed, buyers move in early 2005

September 28th, 2004, 06:45 PM	#88
*AltinD* The Modecator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tiranë / DUBAI / Vienna Posts: 29,779 Likes (Received): 555	America has a bigger problem that Europe does. Not only industry but even services are being outsourced now days.

September 28th, 2004, 07:11 PM	#90
juiced go with the flow Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,927 Likes (Received): 0	And that's why France is so keen on new EU member countries raising their taxes so they aren't as competitive

September 28th, 2004, 07:21 PM	#91
*AltinD* The Modecator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tiranë / DUBAI / Vienna Posts: 29,779 Likes (Received): 555	You forget the VW's factory in Bratislava where Touareg, the body of the (Porsche) Cayenne, the Golf R32 and the Polo are build, the new Audi Q7 (4x4) will be build there as well. Actually in Hungary are build mostly Audi engines, but the next TT will be build exclusively overthere. As for the France's request, the cheaper labour is more of a attraction then tax brakes, however they are a considerable factor as well.

September 28th, 2004, 07:23 PM	#92
Dubai-Lover Construction Paradise Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dubai (UAE) \| Oehringen (GER) \| Bad Honnef (GER) Posts: 12,678 Likes (Received): 0	right, i know! hungary was just an example for how close outsorcing can be to germany! and they produce the tt there! correct __________________ Updates - Dubai on Emporis

September 30th, 2004, 07:17 AM	#93
Dubai-Lover Construction Paradise Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dubai (UAE) \| Oehringen (GER) \| Bad Honnef (GER) Posts: 12,678 Likes (Received): 0	now abu shabi is going for some serious stuff!!! AD, USD270m rebuilding tenders The Abu Dhabi Government is tendering 50 residential and commercial projects valued at USD270m, all of them to replace existing buildings, reported Gulf News. For next year this budget allocation is set to double to USD540m for 100 projects, said officials. __________________ Updates - Dubai on Emporis

September 30th, 2004, 08:35 AM	#94
Krazy Kool Kat Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 13,625 Likes (Received): 1	source? __________________ Save Dubai's Workers! Click here and sign the petition!

September 30th, 2004, 09:04 AM	#95
Krazy Kool Kat Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 13,625 Likes (Received): 1	Palm II Residential Development __________________ Save Dubai's Workers! Click here and sign the petition!

September 30th, 2004, 01:07 PM	#96
Dubai-Lover Construction Paradise Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dubai (UAE) \| Oehringen (GER) \| Bad Honnef (GER) Posts: 12,678 Likes (Received): 0	ameinfo __________________ Updates - Dubai on Emporis

September 30th, 2004, 01:10 PM	#97
Dubai-Lover Construction Paradise Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dubai (UAE) \| Oehringen (GER) \| Bad Honnef (GER) Posts: 12,678 Likes (Received): 0	recognized this one on the atkins site, but as no info i didn't start a thread for this yet. have to wait for this to being approved __________________ Updates - Dubai on Emporis

September 30th, 2004, 04:40 PM	#98
Face81 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London \| Dubai Posts: 5,354 Likes (Received): 39	Same information appeared in the Gulf News as well. I am guessing that the majority of the money will be invested in further developing the Oil Industry, the defence sector and generally improving the infrastructure in the Emirate of Abu Dhabi; i.e, roads, sewage works, greenery, corniche reclaimation work, etc. I am sure that some will be invested in tourism projects, but I doubt that any of them will be on the scale of what Dubai has undertaken so far. Just my opinion. They dont need to build that sort of stuff, just yet anyway. -Face81

September 30th, 2004, 05:04 PM	#99
Krazy Kool Kat Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 13,625 Likes (Received): 1	"residential and commercial projects" dont include Oil Industry, the defence sector, sewage works, roads etc. in my opinion. Corniche reclaimation work has separate amount of money assigned to it. Lets hope for the best. __________________ Save Dubai's Workers! Click here and sign the petition!

October 1st, 2004, 12:27 AM	#100
Trances , , and , Fade to Black. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Living in London Posts: 7,896 Likes (Received): 4	its nice but hardly land mark __________________ "Are we ready to go farther or have we already gone to far?" “He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.”

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