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Old January 16th, 2016, 06:20 PM   #621
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Land Expropriation may have started between Bursa and Izmir and nothing is under construction until that finishes.
I read the news article you've posted:

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The Turkish government has decided on the urgent expropriation of some 30 villages and neighborhoods in two Turkish provinces in the northwestern Marmara region as part of the ongoing road project to construct a new route connecting Istanbul and the Aegean city of İzmir.
It's a 250km "section". I think it's possible that the land expropiration is just on a sub section. That's why I asked. In addition, it's reported that the road project is "ongoing" but I think they mean the entire project from Istanbul to Izmir.

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Neither of the 2 missing bits of the north ring around Istanbul have a contractor in place yet.
I think you mean "Northern Marmara Part 2+3". Sercan wrote that construction works should begin in 2016. Of course, they are not yet u/c.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 08:48 PM   #622
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasia_Tunnel

What's the future road numbering, D100? Have construction works really began in February 2011? Is it still expected to be opened in October?
'Late 2016' is reported in this news report today: http://www.dailysabah.com/money/2016...d-by-years-end
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Old January 17th, 2016, 02:15 PM   #623
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In addition, I couldn't find Kinali on a map. Where is it?
It's near the junction of D-100 and D-110. It's also the name of the nearby toll station of the O-3.
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Old January 17th, 2016, 03:40 PM   #624
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Thanks. I found this "Kinali". The distance to Odayeri is just 55km (map) but the motorway length is indicated by 149km (source). That's quite strange .
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Old January 21st, 2016, 10:35 PM   #625
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Old January 28th, 2016, 09:58 PM   #626
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Third ringroad (İst.),


Meriç Viaduct (Edirne),
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Old January 28th, 2016, 10:08 PM   #627
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Meriç Viaduct (Edirne),

Why such a wide bridge? Is it part of a greater plan, like a new border crossing with Greece?
I mean it is not the busiest road towards Greece.
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It is 31 to 39 meters wide according to a Google Earth measurement. That seems odd for a secondary border crossing. Especially because the bridge itself is not directly near the border crossing, which is another 2 kilometers away. Google Earth suggests it's not much of a border crossing anyway...
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Old January 29th, 2016, 12:04 AM   #629
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As I understand it will connect Pazarkule border crossing to TEM. (With motorway standards)

+According to news, old historical bridges are forbidden to heavy vehicles, therefore Kapıkule border crossing is crowded, this new viaduct will allow heavy vehicles to use Pazarkule border crossing.
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Old January 29th, 2016, 03:31 AM   #630
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[TR] Turkey | road infrastructure • Karayolu, Otoyol

Well, two kilometres is nothing. I also understand that heavy load traffic on historical structures should be prevented. The Roman like bridge with cobble stones a bit more east of the new bridge.
What I don't understand is the need to build a bridge this wide. There is not that much traffic to justify such a bridge, with probably 2 by 2 lanes. Hence my question about a greater plan of a new border crossing with Greece.
Expand the bridge when needed. Structurally, the new bridge consists of two bridges side by side.
Otherwise I cannot explain this somehow megalomaniac project.

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Old February 3rd, 2016, 11:10 AM   #631
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Plan for Pülümür-Horasan Freeway project (part of Merzifon-Gürbulak Freeway, Hedef 2023 plan)



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Old February 5th, 2016, 10:03 AM   #632
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Meriç Viaduct (Edirne)

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Old February 5th, 2016, 08:57 PM   #633
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[TR] Turkey | road infrastructure • Karayolu, Otoyol

Really? Why is this ultra-wide bridge being built from somewhere to nowhere? This reeks of clientelism. Who commissioned the built of this bridge?
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Old February 5th, 2016, 10:04 PM   #634
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Really? Why is this ultra-wide bridge being built from somewhere to nowhere? This reeks of clientelism. Who commissioned the built of this bridge?
...I'm not from Turkey...answer is my imagination

...turkish - bulgarian border is a black spot, especially since it was completed Bulgarian A4...this bridge leads to the Greek border and thus can relieve turkish - bulgarian border crossing via greece E85 to Svilengrad ( BG )...
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It will bypass Kapıkule with motorway standards.

I assume this will reduce effects of disruptions to international transportation caused by Bulgarian side, such as: http://www.novinite.com/articles/166...rossing+Points
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It's gonna provide controlled access to Greece's entry port through Parazkule
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Old February 5th, 2016, 11:08 PM   #637
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Ah. Any plans on both (Greek and Turkish) sides to increase the capacity of the border crossing itself? I crossed that border myself once. It's a really tiny crossing on both sides.
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Street View on the Greek side shows it's just one building with one lane for each direction.
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Αρίθμηση δικτύου αυτοκινητοδρόμων. Τα χρώμα κάθε γραμμής δηλώνει:
Πράσινο=Ολοκληρωμένοι αυτοκινητόδρομοι
Κόκκινο=Τμήματα υπό κατασκευή.
Διακεκομμένες=Τμήματα υπο σχεδιασμό
Γκρι=Υπό αναβάθμιση το υπάρχον οδικό δίκτυο
Μαύρο=Τμήμα που έχουν συζητηθεί χωρίς όμως μελέτη και χρονοδιάγραμμα
According to Google Translator: "Grey = In upgrading the existing road network"

Also this link showing some maps in greek
http://2lyk-argost.kef.sch.gr/site/i...tia%20odos.pdf

Also look up greek Motorway A21
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Old February 6th, 2016, 01:34 AM   #640
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Turkey is building an enormous three lane motorway around the north of Istanbul, this is not far west of of the next section to start

Unfortunately for Turkey they do need to build a wider than normal motorway near their western border to park trucks on when borders are disrupted for a variety of reasons.

In the UK they called this linear truck park "Operation Stack" . Been operated for years when circumstances dictate. One stack last year was 60km long.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Stack

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