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Old August 25th, 2007, 12:11 AM   #121
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site !

http://www.235vanburen.com/

site is up !
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Old August 25th, 2007, 12:27 AM   #122
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Nice find. The new website has a lot more renderings of the building.






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Old August 25th, 2007, 01:05 AM   #123
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The tower portion is nice but that base is an absolute NO! I wish there was some type of ban on these podiums. It, in general, just destroys the street-level atmosphere. When did these horrible podiums become a requirement for building downtown?
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Old August 25th, 2007, 07:21 AM   #124
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The tower portion is nice but that base is an absolute NO! I wish there was some type of ban on these podiums. It, in general, just destroys the street-level atmosphere. When did these horrible podiums become a requirement for building downtown?
I agree podiums suck more than anything yet I am more than happy to this building go up where it is located... podium or not. This area is such a dead end! I hope to see higher buildings rise near it.
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Old August 26th, 2007, 07:28 PM   #125
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I can forgive parking podiums (no matter how abhorrent I find them) as long as they're graced with retail at the street. Sadly, they're a necessity until we finally convince people to get their lazy asses out and walk since the water table in Chicago often makes underground parking prohibitively expensive.
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Old August 27th, 2007, 11:03 PM   #126
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I agree, parking podiums are the reality. I just wish some developments would try to be more creative about how they appear from the street. Glass buildings have an easier time integrating them with the rest of the building (Trump, 600 Fairbanks), but I can't think of ANY decent-looking concrete/painted podiums, except for Contemporaine. Is it really THAT hard to make a podium look like it actually belongs with the building it supports? Or is it just a money thing?
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Old August 27th, 2007, 11:24 PM   #127
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Ralph Johnson loves honesty in his designs. Any parking podium from him will appear AS a parking podium, and will not be disguised as livable floors.

That being said, we know he has the ability to do better on his podiums, since he did Contemporaine.

I think it's a size thing. Contemporaine has a very small amount of units for a lot of its size in River North, so its parking podium doesn't need to be that big. Consequently, it can be made at a human scale.

Site constraints and high density at The Peshtigo and 235 W. Van Buren force the parking podium to occupy the entire lot, to a height of 5 or 6 stories, which limits Johnson's creative possibilities.
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Old August 27th, 2007, 11:46 PM   #128
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I like the fact that it stands out in the souther skyline (also im sure Vetro will do the same).
IF you look closely to the picture..they have a sweet rooftop garden area
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Old August 28th, 2007, 12:29 AM   #129
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grand opening !

Anyone going to the grand opening? Did CMK sent out any invites?
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Old September 8th, 2007, 12:14 AM   #130
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Um Sales Center is a little crappy

Just got back from the "grand opening". Here is my breakdown

1. Sales lady had no idea about any of the specifics of the building. They need to make sure they get her up to speed(im sure they will)
2. Sales center it self is a joke. Aside form a few flat screens and a mock up uf the actual building the sales center is nothing to be "impressed by"
3. The model (of the apartment) is completely worthless. Granted they have limited space..but all they have up is a mock kitchen(really nice)..and then across the way is the bathroom. I asked her where is the rest of the "model" she says this is it. Sweet.

Regardless I got a price list they dont have much avialable thats for sure.
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Old September 8th, 2007, 12:43 AM   #131
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How good does it have to be

If they have already sold 70% of the units, then why would you need to spend a lot on a sales center. IF they did sell 70% before any real marketing which comes out to about 500units sold, would this be the fastest selling building in Chicago history? Just in terms of sheer number of units. I don't know if another condo building even has 500units.
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Old September 8th, 2007, 06:17 PM   #132
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If they have already sold 70% of the units, then why would you need to spend a lot on a sales center. IF they did sell 70% before any real marketing which comes out to about 500units sold, would this be the fastest selling building in Chicago history? Just in terms of sheer number of units. I don't know if another condo building even has 500units.
EVen if they have sold 70% of the units (I wouldn't be surprised if they are overstating this number a little bit) that would still be 150 remaining units - which is still a lot! Also, these remaining 150 units will probably be a lot tougher to sell than the initial 350, as the prices are probably somewhat higher than the initial, preconstruction prices....not to mention, a good portion of those 350 units were probably sold to investors. I'm guessing that overwhelming majority of the remaining 150 units will probably have to be sold to people actually planning to move to 235 West Van Buren.
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Old September 11th, 2007, 04:31 AM   #133
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prices

it looks like prices have not increased at all from pre construction sales
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Old September 11th, 2007, 04:33 AM   #134
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it looks like prices have not increased at all from pre construction sales
^ Why does that bother you?
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Old September 11th, 2007, 05:51 PM   #135
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Price !

The price of the units which is still unsold wont increase, all the remaining spaces havnt been sold because of their price and location.

Sold spaces which have good view and location, I m sure the price has increased on them

I guess we have to wait and see
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Old September 15th, 2007, 10:48 AM   #136
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Price

Would someone please share the pricing info with me? How much would a 1bd/1ba cost? 2bd/1ba? 2bd/2ba?

I am interested in this building but have not gotten around to the sales center yet. I would appreciate it if we could discuss some of the pros and cons of buying a unit here.

Thanks!
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Old September 15th, 2007, 07:34 PM   #137
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Concerned investor

I bought 2brm/2bth on 22nd floor/south view as an investment. Now I am not sure if this was a good idea given the fact that the housing slump will be longer than anticipated, current, future and planned projects similar to 235 van buren, sq ft of the units compared to similar units in the area. Do I have a valid concern or is this a case over analysis?
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Old September 16th, 2007, 06:11 AM   #138
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I bought 2brm/2bth on 22nd floor/south view as an investment. Now I am not sure if this was a good idea given the fact that the housing slump will be longer than anticipated, current, future and planned projects similar to 235 van buren, sq ft of the units compared to similar units in the area. Do I have a valid concern or is this a case over analysis?
I continue to think that this building is and will be a good investment. Because it appears that the construction will be completed fast, the amount of unsold units, I think the prices will jump up once the building is complete.
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Old September 16th, 2007, 06:59 AM   #139
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^ I agree with PRB there. Plus, it will be 2-3 yrs from now when this thing is finished, so there's time for the market to rebound. Chicago is unique to national trends sometimes, and I think some people tend to underestimate the strength of our city's economy and the prospects of the future in the housing market. Attitudes are conservative during times like these, and liberal during hot times like we saw last year and few years prior.
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Old September 16th, 2007, 08:53 AM   #140
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Since demolition is going on at this site, what will this residential tower replace?
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