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Old May 19th, 2009, 09:46 PM   #81
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Old May 19th, 2009, 11:08 PM   #82
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Old May 20th, 2009, 12:47 AM   #83
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It looks much more like a canalisation pump!
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Old May 20th, 2009, 01:45 AM   #84
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I thought it was some military-related object being shuttled from the port to a rail station.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 04:52 PM   #85
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 06:16 PM   #86
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Is Kaliingrad the last city in Russia with typical and complete meter-guage tram system?
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 11:03 PM   #87
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Kaliningrad has seen great development in recent years, so it's possible that they'll get new european trams, or the ones produced in Russia (like these two)

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Old May 24th, 2009, 01:36 AM   #88
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Based on what JoKo65 and Filip7370 wrote, it seems that the Kaliningrad tramway is the only metre gauge system in Russia and no domestic manufacturer offers metre gauge trams.

If that's so, if and when Kaliningrad has enough money to buy new trams the most cost-effective answer might be to buy secondhand metre gauge trams from Germany, for instance, and modernise them.
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Based on what JoKo65 and Filip7370 wrote, it seems that the Kaliningrad tramway is the only metre gauge system in Russia and no domestic manufacturer offers metre gauge trams.

If that's so, if and when Kaliningrad has enough money to buy new trams the most cost-effective answer might be to buy secondhand metre gauge trams from Germany, for instance, and modernise them.
The problem is not the meter gauge, I've heard, but the loading gauge of the cars. They are very narrow, only 2,2 m, russian tram cars normally are 2,5 m broad.
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Old May 24th, 2009, 03:26 PM   #90
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For sure we 'll be seeing N8S/C/or any other version of those "second-generation" german trams. In further future they can buy some low flor versions of that construction.
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For sure we 'll be seeing N8S/C/or any other version of those "second-generation" german trams. In further future they can buy some low flor versions of that construction.
You mean M6/8?

M = Meterspur (meter gauge)
N = Normalspur (standard gauge)

The M6/8 are too wide (2,3 m).
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The only city I know, which has such small trams, is Duisburg. Their "GT 10 NC-DU" trams are 2,20m wide too. And especially designed for Duisburg; apparently such narrow trams aren't available "off-the-shelf".
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Old May 25th, 2009, 10:15 PM   #93
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The only city I know, which has such small trams, is Duisburg. Their "GT 10 NC-DU" trams are 2,20m wide too. And especially designed for Duisburg; apparently such narrow trams aren't available "off-the-shelf".
Zurich, Bern and Basel have 2.2m cars, except for Combinos
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Old May 26th, 2009, 12:05 AM   #94
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The M6/8 are too wide (2,3 m).
But they've got cut edges.

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Old September 6th, 2009, 02:02 PM   #98
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Kaliningrad tramlines

Last summer, I rode by bicycle from Berlin to Kaliningrad and then back to France.The state of this interesting tram network dating from the german
period is not flourishing.On the main streets, new tracks were laid,but on
many other streets and also when the tracks are separated from the uncontrolled car trafic, tram tracks are in bad condition.Trams are dangerously " pitching" so that they have to go slowly.Only single cars are running and on many lines, even when the tracks have been renewed, there
is no tram trafic at all (especially on the north-south line behind the cathedral and Kant's grave and along the new and beautiful district on the
Staraya Pregolya bank; it also the case along the restored Königstor where
new tracks were dismantled).At all tram stations, even on streets which are
as large as motorways, ther are no islands for the security of travellers:they
have to cross all traffic lanes to get in or out the tam...Using bicycle as a daily means of transport is also not easy in Kaliningrad:
security problems when you must leave your bicycle in the street;main streets which are as large as motorways; many other streets which are in bad condition, so that it is easier to ride on the pavement...
To improve living environmental conditions in this attractive metropolitan area,
I hope that cycling as well as other sustainable modes of transport such as
tramcars will be facilitated and developped.
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Kaliningrad tramlines

Last summer, I rode by bicycle from Berlin to Kaliningrad and then back to France.The state of this interesting tram network dating from the german
period is not flourishing.On the main streets, new tracks were laid,but on
many other streets and also when the tracks are separated from the uncontrolled car trafic, tram tracks are in bad condition.Trams are dangerously " pitching" so that they have to go slowly.Only single cars are running and on many lines, even when the tracks have been renewed, there
is no tram trafic at all (especially on the north-south line behind the cathedral and Kant's grave and along the new and beautiful district on the
Staraya Pregolya bank; it also the case along the restored Königstor where
new tracks were dismantled).At all tram stations, even on streets which are
as large as motorways, ther are no islands for the security of travellers:they
have to cross all traffic lanes to get in or out the tam...Using bicycle as a daily means of transport is also not easy in Kaliningrad:
security problems when you must leave your bicycle in the street;main streets which are as large as motorways; many other streets which are in bad condition, so that it is easier to ride on the pavement...
To improve living environmental conditions in this attractive metropolitan area,
I hope that cycling as well as other sustainable modes of transport such as
tramcars will be facilitated and developped.
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Old September 6th, 2009, 02:19 PM   #100
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we had trams like that , but then the mayor removed the tracks to widen the boulevards and ease up the heavy traffic and replaced the trams with brand new buses wich are way more comfortable and faster
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