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Old March 25th, 2007, 05:59 AM   #2241
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Yeah, that was posted before. I think I remember reading it before. Good link though.
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Old March 25th, 2007, 06:00 AM   #2242
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I didn't know the exterior of 10IH was gray (hence the blue color in all the renderings). I think I may like the gray exterior better.
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Old March 25th, 2007, 07:09 AM   #2243
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Doesn't seem to make much sense developing State Center w/o addressing McCulloh Homes. Would the Housing Authority "run out the string" there--i.e. board up properties rather than replacing tenants who move on--until no one's left to protest the project's redevelopment?....
It's hard to see affluent housing in the State Center without "dealing" with the Projects but however it plays out, it's going to be a while. If the housing authority gradually closes it up it will take years and if it's decided to go in there and do a clean sweep, there will probably be years of litigation before anything happens. I any event, it's going to take a while. Furthermore, whoever does the development will have to take into account building a replacement for the current State buildings, at least if O'Malley doesn't want to be said to be moving them out of the area. That's about 3000 employees and probably nearly a million square feet of office, plus parking. That will have to happen before they demolish the current buildings, which will push the rest of the project further back. In short, we can't be impatient on this one.
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Old March 25th, 2007, 07:21 AM   #2244
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By: Adam Gordon....

Still, I just can’t shake the sense that this isn’t a Baltimore building. It’s designed more to show outsiders that Baltimore can play the big building and serious downtown game too, thank you.... But local officials like Baltimore Development Corporation President M. J. “Jay” Brodie gush over it, seeing it as a sign that Baltimore has achieved “real city” status like Philadelphia.....
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This important Baltimore site deserves a building with a Baltimore feel. What might that mean?.....
As near as I can tell, a Baltimore feel would mean brick and formstone rowhouses, puffy hair and crab cakes...we already have enough of those. Baltimore has graduated before when Charles Center brought a bunch of new buildings, the first new office construction since before the Depression and when the Inner Harbor replaced a bunch of rotting wharves, rusty corregated warehouses and the infamous Elmer's biker bar. It's time for the next level. Thankfully, there's no way we can ever become Charlotte, with it's large buildings surrounded by big parking lots, but imitating some of the individual buildings in this dense, very different city would not be bad.
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Old March 25th, 2007, 05:09 PM   #2245
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Steven, check you mail.

I now have first hand confirmation that downtown is filling up with people. I bought a new car and thought I would have no problem at all leasing a parking space for it in Mt. Vernon.

WRONG! Almost all of the garages have long waiting lists. I tried the Belvedere, Sun, and numerous other garages in the neighborhood. I finally found a spot, but it sure wasn't easy.

I wanted the car in a garage not because I was scared it would be stolen, but because BALTIMOREANS DON'T KNOW HOW TO PARALLEL PARK! They destroy your bumpers!

Not to kick a dead horse, but Europe and the US just passed an open skies agreement on Thursday. Any European airline can now fly to any American city, and vice versa, and they don't have to fly from their home country. For example, British air can start Rome/Baltimore service if they choose to. I expect this agreement will benefit BWI. Previous to this, there were lots of negotiations between the US and any other country that proposed service to an American city.

One of the major things that will happen as a result of this agreement is that low cost discount arilines will now start flying to America. You don't have to be a genius to see that BWI is a logical choice since it has to be the "East Coast Discount Hub of America".

Here is an article from the Daily Telegraph in the UK. It's very long, so I only posted page 1. The rest of it can be found here for those who are interested:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai.../ccskies25.xml

Blue sky thinking after open skies deal
Last Updated: 12:14am GMT 25/03/2007Page 1 of 3

Airlines say too many restrictions remain despite the liberalising of EU/US flights. Jonathan Russell reports

Casting the EU Council of Ministers as Cupid may seem unlikely, but Thursday's decision by Europe's 27 transport ministers to agree an "Open Skies" aviation pact with the United States could be the key to consummating some of the longest-running engagements in corporate history.

Whether it is British Airways and Iberia or Lufthansa and BMI, industry experts are predicting that the agreement will affect not just price and product on the transatlantic routes, but lead to a wholesale shake-up of European carriers.

Views differ depending on whose crystal ball you are gazing into, but a credible line of thought emerging is that in five years' time Europe will be dominated by three "super-carriers", likely to be piloted by BA, Lufthansa and Air France. As the argument goes, the airlines will work their way through their respective alliance groups - One World for BA, Star Alliance for Lufthansa and Sky Team for Air France - swallowing up the smaller European airlines while working on creating closer ties with their larger US partners.

As one aviation analyst puts it: "If you have been engaged for this long, why not get married?" But this sort of marriage has been tried before with varying degrees of success. In the last 10 years BA twice tried to win KLM's hand, only to be ditched at the altar when the Dutch flag carrier decided to tie the knot with Air France in 2004. Shortly afterwards Lufthansa and Swiss International Airlines announced an engagement that two years later has still not been finalised.

What has held back large-scale consolidation of European long haul carriers is the fear that being taken over by a rival would mean breaking bilateral US agreements and losing valuable transatlantic routes. Now under the open skies agreement, EU and US carriers will have the right to operate international routes between any two cities on the two continents - progress, although for many not enough.

Concerns over the agreements have centred around limitations on ownership of US airlines and restrictions on operating domestic routes in both the United States and within European countries.

Steve Ridgway, Virgin Atlantic's chief executive, says: "We want proper open skies. We are frustrated that the deal did not go far enough. The transatlantic route is 60 per cent of global traffic, if you get that right just about everything else falls into place."

As a nod to these concerns, last Thursday's agreement included a guillotine clause giving the US and EU two years to flesh out a further agreement satisfying these points, or return to square one.

Although the clause was stipulated on by UK Government it is seen by many in the industry as toothless - one Brussels lobbyist claimed it would be impossible to turn back the clock once liberalisation was in force.

But after four years of negotiations a deal has at least been agreed that will allow the airlines to operate in an open corporate market.

Ridgway says: "There are too many airlines in the world. A couple of things will now happen, the alliances will move closer or move towards consolidation while the specialist players will grow." He is referring to the move by low-cost airlines such as Ryan Air and EasyJet to look across the Atlantic for new routes, while single-class business carriers such as Maxjet and Eos, which currently operate transatlantic routes out of Stansted, eye up Middle Eastern and Indian routes.

"This agreement opens up tremendous new routes and should make Stansted far more of a hub airport," says Joshua Marks, Maxjet's senior vice-president of planning. "You will see low-cost and single business class operators opening up routes from Stansted to Africa, Asia and beyond."

The scenario is enticing and entirely possible, bespoke services from low cost, to mid-market to single class planes criss-crossing the sky from the Americas to Europe and beyond. But while this might happen it is closer to the ground, at the boarding gates of Heathrow Airport, that the immediate battle to control the transatlantic market will take place.

Access to Heathrow, with more than 33 per cent of the entire EU-US market and an even greater percentage of the most lucrative New York flights, is the prize all the airlines want. Up until now the routes have been dominated by two UK and two US carriers - BA and Virgin Atlantic on one side and United and American Airlines on the other. For years they have used the routes as a cash cow and despite rock-bottom economy fares have been consistently accused of overcharging for the premium seats in business and first class.

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Old March 25th, 2007, 09:55 PM   #2246
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Wada, you're sure right about Mt. Vernon's tightening parking situation, I went out for a drink after work about 6:30 pm (usually a good parking time due to changover) and it was almost impossible.

I like this, as much of an inconvenience as it is to me. It means the neighborhood is sought after despite the losses of jobs at the AUA and MG. Anyway, every knows my feelings about parking by now...

I remember a few years ago you could get parking in a garage for like $70 month. I think it's quite a bit higher now.

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Old March 25th, 2007, 10:00 PM   #2247
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Ryan targets Greektown
Baltimore Business Journal - March 23, 2007by Daniel J. SernovitzStaff


National home builder Ryan Homes has teamed up with Metroscape Development to build an estimated 73-unit townhouse community in Greektown, adjacent to a larger, five-building residential development being planned by KSI Services Inc.

The project, being called Athena Square, would mark Ryan's first Baltimore City townhouse development.
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Old March 25th, 2007, 11:19 PM   #2248
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I think one of our forumers reported that Athena Square was already under construction. Didn't we also hear that the KSI Development would break ground sometime later this year as well?
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Old March 26th, 2007, 12:05 AM   #2249
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I can't get over that Dubai banner. That place in unbelievable. Funny how after 9/11 everyone thought the skyscraper was dead.
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Old March 26th, 2007, 12:20 AM   #2250
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Baltimore Arena

Would the current Morris A Mechanic site be a good location for a new Baltimore Arena? They could raze the theatre and build a new arena right there. It's close to the subway, light rail and two large hotels are close by the Hilton and Wyndam. Thoughts?
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Would the current Morris A Mechanic site be a good location for a new Baltimore Arena? They could raze the theatre and build a new arena right there. It's close to the subway, light rail and two large hotels are close by the Hilton and Wyndam. Thoughts?
A hotel is already planned for this location. Also, the site is not large enough to support a new arena.
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Old March 26th, 2007, 02:37 AM   #2252
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A hotel is already planned for this location. Also, the site is not large enough to support a new arena.
Don't quote me on this one, but I think the hotel you might be talking about is slated for the B&O building. The Mechanic site has yet to be programmed.
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Old March 26th, 2007, 04:12 AM   #2253
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That building is SO hot. I'm dying to see Interior shots. I hope it's ultra-modern. Despite the sketch-y desolate west side neighborhood I bet it'll be really over-priced.
Welcome, Bastian!! Yes, this building does look very nice. I'm actually looking for a place downtown to live and miay consider this building if anything's left.
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Old March 26th, 2007, 04:30 AM   #2254
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I'm actually not impressed with either Stern work. I would be indifferent. I wouldn't mind Baltimore's glass tower version, as a matter of fact, and it's hard to say it would be inconsistent with Baltimore's skyline because, well, our buildings are inconsistent. We have everything from graceful structures like 100 E. Pratt to hideous messes like the Federal Building, too, eh, just plain wierd in 111 S. Calvert St. I will hold out on any final comment until the final sketches are released. Generally, I'm with Nate in being most concerned about the ground-level portion of the building. What will it do for the neighborhood and to improve the urban experience of the Western Inner Harbor? - That's the question we have to ask.
Yes, B.I.B. Baltimore officially has the title as the quirkiest skyline in the country. Can't wait to see the renderings.
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Don't quote me on this one, but I think the hotel you might be talking about is slated for the B&O building. The Mechanic site has yet to be programmed.
David S Brown (partnering with the parking concern) has discussed mixed use that includes additional retail and hospitality. This was announced before the B&O Arc Wheeler announcement.
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Welcome, Bastian!! Yes, this building does look very nice. I'm actually looking for a place downtown to live and miay consider this building if anything's left.
Plenty of availability. Leasing hasn't taken place yet. Go for it!
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Old March 26th, 2007, 06:52 AM   #2257
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I think one of our forumers reported that Athena Square was already under construction. Didn't we also hear that the KSI Development would break ground sometime later this year as well?
Yes, it is under development. The sales trailer is up now . . . prices are from the $370s. (!!!)

I'm still waiting for the day Bob's Transport gets torn down. Hope it won't be long now . . .

One way, I've found, to track Greektown happenings is to read the online copy of Pharos, the monthly newsletter of St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church. There's always a report in there by John Gavrilis, head of the Greektown CDC. Back in January, he had reported that he'd spoken with KSI, and the blurb echoed what another one of our correspondents here had said. . . that ground was to be broken in the spring.

BTW, another development on Oldham Street, which was to be called Oldham Crossing, isn't happening . . . yet. Apparently the original buyer backed out. The plot is rezoned and available, and is being brokered by MacKenzie:

http://www.mackenziecommercial.com/r...projectid=1544
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I was just cruising downtown and noticed Arcwheeler's billboard advertizing 10 Inner Harbor. Hotel, office, retail and residential makes up the project. This is the first time i heard of an office component being added.
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Would the current Morris A Mechanic site be a good location for a new Baltimore Arena? They could raze the theatre and build a new arena right there. It's close to the subway, light rail and two large hotels are close by the Hilton and Wyndam. Thoughts?
Here is an image from Google Earth of the Arena and Hopkins Place areas. As can be seen, not nearly enough space. However, a nice tall building would fit very well on the Mechanic site!!
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I was just cruising downtown and noticed Arcwheeler's billboard advertizing 10 Inner Harbor. Hotel, office, retail and residential makes up the project. This is the first time i heard of an office component being added.
Very nice.

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