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Old April 16th, 2007, 06:32 PM   #2921
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^Turn it back to Port property. We're going to need it in the future.

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Old April 16th, 2007, 07:17 PM   #2922
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Under Armour going into the Legg tower would be awesome. Just imagine the huge UA logo towering over the city, and visible baseball fans and cameras in Oriole Park. While I disagree that open space at the base of the tower is 'wasted space', it would even provide space for UA events. Plus it could encourage UA to finally open a HQ store downtown.
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Old April 16th, 2007, 07:25 PM   #2923
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Come back down to earth people. I simply can't imagine a small/medium sized clothing company needing 400,000 square feet of OFFICE space. Manufacturing or distribution space, perhaps, but not office. That amount of office space is almost as much as Legg Mason is taking at Harbor East. I think 40,000 square feet of offices is more realistic for a company this size.

I've been wrong before and I'm sure I will be wrong again, but I wouldn't bet the farm on this. It just doesn't make sense to me.
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Old April 16th, 2007, 08:03 PM   #2924
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Not 40k but 400k. I couldn't believe it either. Looks to me like they might be getting ahead of themselves. I don't think a big UA logo towering over Baltimore would be that great of an idea.

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Old April 16th, 2007, 08:04 PM   #2925
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yeahhh.....

To the point, where did the 400,000 figure come from anyway?
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Old April 16th, 2007, 08:05 PM   #2926
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Under Armor > PSINet
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Old April 16th, 2007, 08:19 PM   #2927
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Concerning Wasted Space of Legg Mason Lobby

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Under Armour going into the Legg tower would be awesome. Just imagine the huge UA logo towering over the city, and visible baseball fans and cameras in Oriole Park. While I disagree that open space at the base of the tower is 'wasted space', it would even provide space for UA events. Plus it could encourage UA to finally open a HQ store downtown.

I don't know how much office space Under Armour really needs but if they did move into the Legg tower, part of the lobby could be turned into a signature Under Armour store. Just a thought.
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Old April 16th, 2007, 08:43 PM   #2928
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The main reason Legg Mason wanted out of that building is the lack of parking. Why would Under Armour (or anybody else for that matter) fall into the same mess?
The WTC has the same problem.
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Old April 16th, 2007, 08:44 PM   #2929
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I don't know how much office space Under Armour really needs but if they did move into the Legg tower, part of the lobby could be turned into a signature Under Armour store. Just a thought.
Well if on the off off chance this actually did happen, the signature UA store could be placed at the base of the building where some of the Pratt St. redesign concepts envisioned building out to eliminate the depressing plaza around the tower. that would look pretty sharp if you ask me.
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Old April 16th, 2007, 08:47 PM   #2930
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So is there a chance that at some point over the next say... 3 years, we could have cranes up over the city for 10 IH, 300 E. Pratt and the new Legg Building and 4 Seasons Tower ALL at the same time?
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Old April 16th, 2007, 09:13 PM   #2931
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I believe Legg MAson is leasing 385,000 sf presently at a cost of $9 million.
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Old April 16th, 2007, 09:24 PM   #2932
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I really wonder what the architects/urban designers were thinking back in the day when they developed [the USFG/Legg Mason] block. It looks like it would be a perfect example of what not to do in an urban design textbook.
Pretty sure they were thinking: visual link between Charles Center and the Inner Harbor. The base of the black, trapezoidal Charles Center South building on the NW corner of Lombard and Charles has a sort of gateway facing SE towards the harbor.

Demo would be nice, but doesn't seem likely. Legg was going to settle the parking issue with a new garage on Lombard. Not sure what happened with that. Would settle for some sort of garden with sculpture on the plaza. Used to be a pink granite Henry Moore sculpture, "Conception," there. It was removed to the lobby of the Convention Center and from there, dunno.
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Old April 16th, 2007, 10:13 PM   #2933
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Is microsoft still searching for space downtown??
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Old April 16th, 2007, 10:38 PM   #2934
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1970's 101 (Henry Moore Where Art Thou?)

The USF&G building, along with the WTC, were supposed to be the exclamation points of the harbor. All the other building were low rises and were designed to focus attention on these two buildings. The planners at the time considered them to be the architectural crown jewels of the Inner Harbor renewal project. In the case of Charles Center, One Charles Center by Mies van der Rohe was the signature building. World famous architects designed both the WTC and USF&G buildings. In the WTC case it was IM Pei. For USF&G is was Vlastimil Koubek.

They were built at a time when "Modernism", and the "International Style" were at their zenith and glorified the power of Corporate America. Wind swept plazas were cropping up all over the place - especially in New York City which had light and air issues due to its density. NYC revised its zoning code to allow for taller structures if they were set back from the street. The zoning change eliminated the need for buildings to be stepped back at the top if the structure were built in the middle of the block. Hence light and air could now reach the ground. This resulted in huge plazas and soon this was the style of the day. Baltimore got on the bandwagon, as did most American cities, not so much for the light and air issues but because it was considered to be modern design.

There was little ornamentation placed on the buildings. At one time corporate America showed how successful they were by adorning their buildings with everything imaginable. The Nationsbank building is an example of this. By the 1970's, the pendulum had swung the other way and ornamentation was frowned upon. In the case of the USF&G building though, they did use quality materials. The plaza and facade of the entire structure are all imported cut stone. No cast concrete here.

Little attention was given to the pedestrian. When it opened, there was a very large Henry Moore sculpture that adorned the plaza that I didn't particularly care for. It was supposed to act as a focal point. I don't remember where they moved it but I do know that it was in the Convention Center for a while. It was made of a porous stone and couldn't take the Baltimore climate. It is now worth millions but I wouldn't pay $10 for it.

I remember looking out the back window of our home near Memorial Stadium and watching the USF&G building rise. It was built just like the Comcast building now going up in Philadelphia. The elevator shaft went up first and then the four corners were constructed. Everything else hung off of those 5 supports.

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Old April 16th, 2007, 10:58 PM   #2935
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great post
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Old April 16th, 2007, 11:13 PM   #2936
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So is there a chance that at some point over the next say... 3 years, we could have cranes up over the city for 10 IH, 300 E. Pratt and the new Legg Building and 4 Seasons Tower ALL at the same time?
Yes, if oil prices, interest rates, and demand cooperate.
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Old April 16th, 2007, 11:22 PM   #2937
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Not 40k but 400k. I couldn't believe it either. Looks to me like they might be getting ahead of themselves. I don't think a big UA logo towering over Baltimore would be that great of an idea.

PSINet is still a fresh wound.
UA will NOT go the way of PSINet.
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Old April 17th, 2007, 12:10 AM   #2938
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Heres an arTicle I found on an other site. Baltimore’s service-learning project will be a collaborative effort between Jewish Volunteer Connection, the JCC of Greater Baltimore, and Beth El Congregation. The majority of the projects will take place in Baltimore’s Reservoir Hill neighborhood, a diverse neighborhood that has recently begun significant revitalization, due to the strength of its neighborhood association. Service projects will include the removal of garbage from abandoned lots, creation of community gardens, and construction of green spaces for the community, thereby helping to beautify the area while also converting abandoned and often dangerous lots into beautiful and useful neighborhood assets. The work that volunteers and neighbors will accomplish by working together will create tangible benefits for the neighborhood and once the service projects are completed, the neighbors will be able to sustain and build upon the work that was done for the benefit of the whole community. The development of community gardens and parks will also encourage community building among the diverse residents of Reservoir Hill
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Old April 17th, 2007, 12:10 AM   #2939
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Under Armour going into the Legg tower would be awesome. Just imagine the huge UA logo towering over the city, and visible baseball fans and cameras in Oriole Park. While I disagree that open space at the base of the tower is 'wasted space', it would even provide space for UA events. Plus it could encourage UA to finally open a HQ store downtown.
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Old April 17th, 2007, 03:52 AM   #2940
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The Project
The expansion and renovation of the Baltimore Convention Center was critical to the Maryland Stadium Authority to boost the number, and size of conventions to be held in Baltimore. The facility more than doubled in size to a 1,225,000 square foot, state-of-the-art exhibit and meeting venue.

PK Role
Due to the advanced scheduling of exhibitions and convention events, it was necessary to complete the Baltimore Convention Center project on a fast-track construction schedule. Poole and Kent's scope of work included the installation of the mechanical systems, including: HVAC, plumbing, and utility piping. Some interesting figures from this project, includes: 5.5 Acre Urban Construction Site, 13,000 tons of structural steel, 13 miles of copper tubing, 450 plumbing fixtures, 135 fans, integration of DDC controls with existing facility, 40,000 cubic yards of concrete, 1.4 million pounds of duct work, 87 pumps, and 54 air handling units.

Highlights/Challenges
Poole and Kent's "can do" philosophy facilitated the Baltimore Convention Center's tight schedule. One example, from both a scheduling and value engineering standpoint, was our proposal of the deletion of the mechanical room canvas wrap. This costly item was substituted with efficient fiber board providing a substantial cost savings to the Owner.

In September 1996, the Baltimore Convention Center opened as scheduled, and today it is regarded as one of the Nation's top convention centers
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