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Old February 15th, 2007, 10:54 PM   #961
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another rendering of Legg Mason tower at Harbor East:
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Old February 15th, 2007, 11:01 PM   #962
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What does everyone guess that the height of the new Legg Tower is?
I'd say between 350 ft. and 370 ft. tall.

And, I'd guess that the Four Seasons Tower is between 450 ft. and 470 ft. tall.
Am I way off? Close?

Anybody?
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Old February 15th, 2007, 11:08 PM   #963
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Aliceanna Circle, or whatever its called, is a prime area for real estate now. I almost wish the circle was bigger, it would really have become a great location in the city. Nevertheless, it's still really nice.
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Old February 15th, 2007, 11:13 PM   #964
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Baltimoreborn1, I have been looking for a good panorama of Baltimore, like the one you posted, to photoshop a future rendering of Baltimore. I just got photoshop back on my computer, so if I find the time, I'll try to make at least a makeshift rendering. I'm not as good as some of these other photoshoppers, but I'll come up with something.
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Old February 15th, 2007, 11:15 PM   #965
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I believe in you, Peter!
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Old February 15th, 2007, 11:45 PM   #966
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What does everyone guess that the height of the new Legg Tower is?
I'd say between 350 ft. and 370 ft. tall.

And, I'd guess that the Four Seasons Tower is between 450 ft. and 470 ft. tall.
Am I way off? Close?

Anybody?
The new Legg Tower I'm guessing looks like it will be about 440ft or so. The Four Seasons Tower looks like it will be over 500ft. The Marriott is 432ft and in the rendering Four Seasons seems to tower over it.
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Old February 15th, 2007, 11:59 PM   #967
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What does everyone guess that the height of the new Legg Tower is?
I'd say between 350 ft. and 370 ft. tall.

And, I'd guess that the Four Seasons Tower is between 450 ft. and 470 ft. tall.
Am I way off? Close?

Anybody?
i would say that's about right for the smaller one. and now that we know the hotel tower is slightly taller than the marriott waterfront hotel (430 feet), an estimate of 450-470 sounds accurate.
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Old February 16th, 2007, 12:03 AM   #968
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Old February 16th, 2007, 12:16 AM   #969
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I've been spending the past several months researching the Baltimore Urban League, the CPHA, the School Board, and other instiutions that paved the way for racial integration in the city. I have to admire folks like Sondheim, Sobeloff, Waxter, Weglein, and Sidney Hollander. These individuals played pivotal roles in helping to secure accommodation for African Americans in the city and in envisioning the future of our town. It's easy for people to accept the condition of a city as "fate," and many of my friends feel that Baltimore is, and will always will be, a city condemned to decay, drugs, and missed opportunities. Sondheim represents a figure whose affirmative values helped us to dream a new future for Baltimore -- a dream that, because of our presence here, inspired us, too.

You have to wonder who the new generation of civic leaders in our city is. With fewer corporate executives than in the 40s, the political and economic capital with which these men led is no longer available.
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Old February 16th, 2007, 01:08 AM   #970
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I was looking over at the commentary on the Legg Mason thread, and in particular office stuff. I think most of downtown's major tenants just signed large leases in the past two years. Vertis, T. Rowe, Stifel, now Legg Mason, and of course, Constellation Energy.

It's possible to fill the building with mid-size law firms, but 23 floors of contiguous space is a lot -- and it's supposed to be a corporate headquarters. With regard to the pull such empty space might exert on traditional CBD properties, I'd expect it to be small. Not to many large operations continue to exist north of Lombard Street, except in the Wachovia and Sun Trust buildings. One Charles Center has the offices of Peter Angelos and a couple law firms, but the rest of the not-vacant space is Hopkins. The Blaustein Building and 201 North Charles have a mixture of private tenants and public or quasi-public tenants. Either way, the amount of vacant space in the Legg Mason building is probably equal to, or exceeds, the amount of office space in both 201 and in the Blaustein.

I think it's likely you'll see an out-of-city tenant come in, or an existing area tenant expand dramatically. Ferris Baker Watts seems like a good bet to me. Don't think this is a free benefit, though. The city will have to pony up money for some improvements and to pay for space modifications. Eerik, as you're really up on these matters, would you mind offering a guess or some reasonable speculation?
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Old February 16th, 2007, 02:17 AM   #971
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I believe this angle is wrong. This looks like the side that should be facing the water.


...Or I can be wrong.
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Old February 16th, 2007, 02:19 AM   #972
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Old February 16th, 2007, 03:10 AM   #973
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I cannot wait to see this skyline going north on I-95. First you'll see 10 Inner Harbor rising up, then the skyline we know so well will begin to creep slowly but 300 E. will be posing in the foreground(that building looks hot by the way)in the distant you'll see something new and unfamiliar, that will be 701, but just when you think the skyline is complete you look over to left and see Harbor East, Harbor Point, Icon and Canton Crossing.

All you can say is damn that's a big skyline!

Is there any chance something will fill the space between the new section of the CBD (Harbor East) and the downtown core?
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Old February 16th, 2007, 03:30 AM   #974
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^No.

Unless Little Italy is willing to have their parking lot properties along President allowed to be rezoned office high rises.

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Old February 16th, 2007, 03:32 AM   #975
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I don't believe the Marriott Waterfron is any near 430 feet tall! It's not more than, what, 33 stories?

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Old February 16th, 2007, 04:54 AM   #976
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The new Legg Tower I'm guessing looks like it will be about 440ft or so. The Four Seasons Tower looks like it will be over 500ft. The Marriott is 432ft and in the rendering Four Seasons seems to tower over it.
i think i like my fellow southern H.S. classmate's prediction better.
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Old February 16th, 2007, 04:59 AM   #977
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I always thought the the height numbers were a mistake. I thought the Marriott was 365 ft. tall.
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Old February 16th, 2007, 05:23 AM   #978
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Yeah, remember, we had this discussion months ago. The Vue is only 306' and is close to the height of the Marriott. My guess is that Legg will be around 300' and 4 Seasons 375'.

Mason, thanks for reminding me. I keep forgetting that I'm not the only Bulldog on this site!
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Old February 16th, 2007, 05:39 AM   #979
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Naw...I think the Marriot is at least over 400ft. Looks too tall to be 365 ft.
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Old February 16th, 2007, 05:57 AM   #980
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it is over 400 ft. it's 430 feet, and i got that number from atleast 6 sources. here's 2 of 'em.......

http://www.beyonddc.com/buildings/skyscraperlist.html

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=...ltimore-md-usa
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