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Old January 29th, 2008, 11:06 AM   #141
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In Madrid they even have the "Bypass Sur". Isn't that Spanish or an English loanword?
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Old January 29th, 2008, 11:22 AM   #142
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I guess it's an English loanword, but it's pretty used in Spain nowadays.

I would say we usually call 'circunvalacion' to a road that allows you the access to many parts of the city while 'by-pass' would be a small stretch which connects two parts of the city. I am not really aware of their proper names in English though.
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Old January 29th, 2008, 11:42 AM   #143
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To me:

Bypass; partial beltway around a city

Beltway; (near) complete ringroad, similar to Circunvalación
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Old January 29th, 2008, 09:46 PM   #144
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Carretera de circunvalación.
como un "freeway" que tiene varios accesos a la ciudad???
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Old January 29th, 2008, 10:04 PM   #145
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como un "freeway" que tiene varios accesos a la ciudad???
Eso es, como un periférico en México
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Old January 29th, 2008, 10:47 PM   #146
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Eso es, como un periférico en México
entonces si es eso??
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Old January 30th, 2008, 12:44 AM   #147
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Excellent pictures, thank you.

A couple of queries,
1. Driving from the US-border to say Mexico City: what would the total amount of toll cost come to?

2. Is the Highway(s) completely paved from the US border to the southern end (Belize?)?

3. Are there fuel stations on the toll roads, or does one have to turn off into the nearest town?

4. I drive a diesel powered car made in Mexico (VW Jetta). I suppose the availability of diesel is pretty good? What's the quality like?

As an aside, when I was in Toronto in 2003, I once saw a VW Jetta with Mexican plates. I thought to myself, 'now there was a well-traveled individual'.

1. The toll depends from the city you enter to Mexico. For example, from Matamoros, Tamaulipas to Mexico City (on motorway) the total $ is of 70 dlls, and the lenght is aprox. 1200 km. You can take toll-free roads, but they are more dangerous (not because of security reasons, the roads are sometimes not well maintaned, and they are narrow). You can know if the road is tolled (the best option), by watching a "D" under the road number, or when you find the word "CUOTA" or "VIA CORTA" on the signs.

2. Yes, paved roads exists from the north border to Guatemala and Belize.

3. Sometimes there are gas stations on the toll roads, specially in roads with traffic, but sometimes you will need to deviate to a town for fuel. Diesel is available in a lot of gas stations, and I don't really know a lot about their quality..

Usually the expressways are near to towns, so fuel won't be a problem.

You can check the km. distance, toll, etc.. here:

http://aplicaciones4.sct.gob.mx/sibu...=cmdEscogeRuta

I recommed you to buy an actualized road map in Mexico, since a lot of things will be easier to understand.

If you have more doubts, send me a PM..


To Jalisquillo20..

Bypass es un libramiento.. Beltway es un periférico.
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Old January 30th, 2008, 12:50 AM   #148
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Excellent pictures, thank you.

A couple of queries,
1. Driving from the US-border to say Mexico City: what would the total amount of toll cost come to?

2. Is the Highway(s) completely paved from the US border to the southern end (Belize?)?

3. Are there fuel stations on the toll roads, or does one have to turn off into the nearest town?

4. I drive a diesel powered car made in Mexico (VW Jetta). I suppose the availability of diesel is pretty good? What's the quality like?

As an aside, when I was in Toronto in 2003, I once saw a VW Jetta with Mexican plates. I thought to myself, 'now there was a well-traveled individual'.
1. Let me check
2. Yes
3. You can find fuel stations on the toll roads, no need to turn off into towns
4. Diesel is not as easy to find as in other countries.
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Old January 30th, 2008, 01:03 AM   #149
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WOW! THOSE ROADS LOOK EXACTLY LIKE (UNITED STATES OF )AMERICAN ROADS! IM CONVINCED ONE DAY THAT MEXICO WILL BE AN EXACT REPLICA OF THE UNITED STATES! (minues the poeple, culture, etc, duh!)
I wouldn't like it if we were an exact replica of the US, but after all we're North Americans, it just seems logical that Mexico gets influenced by the States.
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Old January 30th, 2008, 02:10 AM   #150
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1. The toll depends from the city you enter to Mexico. For example, from Matamoros, Tamaulipas to Mexico City (on motorway) the total $ is of 70 dlls, and the lenght is aprox. 1200 km. You can take toll-free roads, but they are more dangerous (not because of security reasons, the roads are sometimes not well maintaned, and they are narrow). You can know if the road is tolled (the best option), by watching a "D" under the road number, or when you find the word "CUOTA" or "VIA CORTA" on the signs.

2. Yes, paved roads exists from the north border to Guatemala and Belize.

3. Sometimes there are gas stations on the toll roads, specially in roads with traffic, but sometimes you will need to deviate to a town for fuel. Diesel is available in a lot of gas stations, and I don't really know a lot about their quality..

Usually the expressways are near to towns, so fuel won't be a problem.

You can check the km. distance, toll, etc.. here:

http://aplicaciones4.sct.gob.mx/sibu...=cmdEscogeRuta

I recommed you to buy an actualized road map in Mexico, since a lot of things will be easier to understand.

If you have more doubts, send me a PM..


To Jalisquillo20..

Bypass es un libramiento.. Beltway es un periférico.
cual es la diferencia??
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Old January 30th, 2008, 05:26 AM   #151
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El libramiento no rodea completamente la ciudad, y el periférico sí lo hace. Como ejemplo y si creo que los conozcas.. el libramiento de Querétaro, y el periférico del DF.

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Guadalajara-Tepic







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Old January 31st, 2008, 10:27 PM   #152
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Estas son mias de la autopista Saltillo - Monterrey














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Old January 31st, 2008, 10:31 PM   #153
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more pics...

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No se si ya habian posteado estas fotos, pero aqui van...


Autopista Toluca - Ciudad de Mexico





Esta creo que es la de Cuernavaca, no estoy seguro:





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Old February 2nd, 2008, 10:03 PM   #154
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 10:28 PM   #155
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I was checking out Google Earth in Mexico, but it seems to me a lot of "autopista"-type of road in GE seems to be ordinary roads in reality. Mistake by GE? Seems to be a lot in northern Mexico.
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What did u see to make u thing that they are ordinary roads?? And in which part??
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 07:37 AM   #157
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What did u see to make u thing that they are ordinary roads?? And in which part??
I've spent hours checking out Mexican roads on Google Earth, and I've seen the same thing. Often it appears that instead of building a proper motorway, they add a second roadway adjacent to an existing one and separate them with an impenetrable median. There appears to be direct right-turn access to intersecting roads and even abutting properties, but no opportunity to make direct left turns onto or of of the road. Motorists have to drive until they reach an interchange or an overpass, then turn around.

It's late here how, but tomorrow I'll post a Google Earth screenshot that, well, you'll see.
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 12:07 PM   #158
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What did u see to make u thing that they are ordinary roads?? And in which part??
For instance Mexican Highway 2, running from Mexicali parallel to the US border. It is shown on Google Earth as an expressway/motorway, but's it's just a one lane highway. And Mexican Highway 45, running through Ciudad Juárez, is shown as a motorway, but has 2x2 lanes, but also grade intersections.

But then again, the whole Indian national highway network is also shown as motorways, while that is certainly not true.
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 01:08 PM   #159
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this one near Puebla:

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Hay tanta evidencia sobre la corrupcion mexicana, que hay hasta muchas series, peliculas,documentales; producidas tanto en tierras Mexicanas como en EE.UU sobre la realidad de tu país.
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For instance Mexican Highway 2, running from Mexicali parallel to the US border. It is shown on Google Earth as an expressway/motorway, but's it's just a one lane highway. And Mexican Highway 45, running through Ciudad Juárez, is shown as a motorway, but has 2x2 lanes, but also grade intersections.

But then again, the whole Indian national highway network is also shown as motorways, while that is certainly not true.
In which seccion did you see that?, if it's the part of Tijuana/Mexicali
i think you are confusing the toll motorway with the normal road, there
are two ways to arrive to Mexicali, but if you talk about the
"san luis rio colorado-altar" in the stade of Sonora there's no motorway, is
just a normal road. We'll have to take a look in a picture what are you talking
about.
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