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Old January 19th, 2007, 05:54 PM   #21
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Old January 19th, 2007, 06:29 PM   #22
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Is the plan for the two buildings to be completed roughly at the same time, or is it expected that OMP West will be completed awhile after its neighbor to the east?
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Old January 19th, 2007, 07:52 PM   #23
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Is the plan for the two buildings to be completed roughly at the same time, or is it expected that OMP West will be completed awhile after its neighbor to the east?
I can only assume One Museum Park will be completed before OMPW. In case you didn't know, OMP has been under construction for a while now.

We have a thread on it: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=166720

A couple of shots by Chicago Shawn


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Old January 20th, 2007, 12:13 AM   #24
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Plans for south of OMPW

Believe it or not the grassy area that you see in the rendering is proposed to be another a 4 story parking structure with one 30 story tower and town homes. The tower itself is positioned on the very northerly end and will have have views between Tower 4 and OMP1.
By the way Thanks i_am_hydrogen for opening a OMPW thread.
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Old January 20th, 2007, 06:20 AM   #25
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Wait... the grassy area south of the Museum Parks, along Indiana, or west of the Museum Parks, on Roosevelt?

If it's the area to the south, then a 30-story tower with townhomes is just fine there. It's the buildings fronting Grant Park that need to be supertalls.
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Old January 20th, 2007, 07:44 AM   #26
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Wait... the grassy area south of the Museum Parks, along Indiana, or west of the Museum Parks, on Roosevelt?

If it's the area to the south, then a 30-story tower with townhomes is just fine there. It's the buildings fronting Grant Park that need to be supertalls.
^ I'm pretty sure he meant south. The buildings along Roosevelt most assuredly will be quite a bit taller than 30 stories
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Old January 20th, 2007, 08:46 AM   #27
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Yeah, I checked Emporis. 1251 South Indiana (grass lot, east side of Indiana) is pegged at 34 stories.

1200 South Indiana and 1201 South Michigan (the ones on Roosevelt) are both pegged at 60.
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Old January 23rd, 2007, 06:33 AM   #28
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Some digging was done today at the site for OMPW by a backhoe.
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Old January 23rd, 2007, 06:43 PM   #29
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Yeah I noticed yesterday that there were dump trucks lined up on Indiana all the way past 13th street. Can't to see these two (OMP1 & OMPW) rising at the same time.
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Old January 24th, 2007, 05:05 AM   #30
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Way off topic but is/was there any discussion about putting a green roof on the east McCormack building? It looks massive, like a multi football field size.
There does not have to be anything special, I mean some rich loam, prairie grass and let it go.
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Old January 24th, 2007, 05:26 AM   #31
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Way off topic but is/was there any discussion about putting a green roof on the east McCormack building? It looks massive, like a multi football field size.
There does not have to be anything special, I mean some rich loam, prairie grass and let it go.
Probally not, it wasn't built with that intent and it would not be finacially viable option for the corporate mindset of Mcpier Co. There is a lot more to it then just throwing grass seed on the roof, they have to actually add a ton of structual supports to the entire building because of the thousands of more pounds it adds, I wish but probally not unless Daley really goes after them on it.
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Old January 24th, 2007, 08:18 AM   #32
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Lakeside Center (the 1971 building) was a pioneering use of space frames to reduce interior columns--the necessary 36 columns are set on 150-foot centers! It would be hard to add anything but Chia grass to the roof.
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 06:39 PM   #33
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OMPW Update

Noticed 2 large caisson cranes being assembled on site this morning.
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Old March 8th, 2007, 08:23 PM   #34
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Those renderings really do play with the surrounding quite a bit. I mean they have the Roosevelt metra station rendings out and construction (hopefully) set to start on that new station soon. Yet in these renderings it's a nice grass park right out to almost where the old station is today (it's a little off the shot, but still....looks like a normal park in the rendering). They're REALLY gonna have to work a lot and cover those rails, etc. Roosevelt is a bridge in that area now, on the renderings it looks like a nice road leading from Indiana to Lakeshore...all nice and landscaped.

It'd be awesome if they did any of this - but are there even plans, or just a marketing scheme??

It would be a MASSIVE project in itself.




(I copied these pictures from above, and a similar thread on OMPW)
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Old March 18th, 2007, 12:48 AM   #35
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Old April 18th, 2007, 08:18 PM   #37
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Piling update

I had an extended conversation with a Bovis Supervisor this weekend when they were raising the crane on OMP. He has been with Bovis for 29 years and never worked a site that did the cement pilings. He said that they couldn't use the sheet pile on this site because of the concussion rigs that drive the pile would create too much vibration for the Roosevelt Bridge and 2 tunnels that run under Indiana, that they didn't want anything to collapse. He said that the wall goes down about 70 feet.

He said that they have at least another month before we will see bedrock caissons going down and then they have to excavate down 4 levels for parking that are below ground for this tower.

This is quite a bit slower that I would have thought.

Hope this adds some context to Loopy’s pics
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Old April 18th, 2007, 09:22 PM   #38
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Old April 18th, 2007, 10:49 PM   #39
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Damn, I would like to see the cost difference between the two alternatives (sheetpile vs. Bored pile). So if it isn't intended to carry any loads, than I guess it isn't a foundation = Not under construction.
I think Steely made the call that this bored pile is part of the permanent structure and therefore it's U/C. I don't know the costs but maybe Centrum can give us some more technical info and costs. I don't know if he checks anything other than the Roosevelt Collection.

I wonder what this is doing to the OMPW construction timeline?
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Old July 24th, 2007, 03:24 AM   #40
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Found this on a thread for Dubai, UAE Marina Supertall (1000 Ft)

This is what your doing at OMPW - Thought it gives us a idea of why its taking so long. Loopy supplied us with a smaller picture earlier.
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