daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > World Forums > Architecture

Architecture news and discussions on all buildings types and urban spaces
» Classic Architecture | European Classic Architecture and Landscapes | Public Space | Shopping Architecture | Design & Lifestyle | Urban Renewal and Redevelopment



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old January 21st, 2007, 09:01 PM   #21
Canadian Chocho
Registered User
 
Canadian Chocho's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Managua/Toronto
Posts: 3,470
Likes (Received): 28

Quote:
Originally Posted by krull View Post
Good come back. And I agree.
What comeback, he just basically repeated what I said but put Cicago where Toronto was and vice-versa.
__________________
Colonial Cities

1 2 3
Canadian Chocho no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old January 23rd, 2007, 06:52 AM   #22
Brendan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Wollongong, NSW
Posts: 2,219
Likes (Received): 23

Chicago's.

One of my favorite architectural features is metal blades on blue glass, it looks so sleek and classy.
Brendan no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 23rd, 2007, 07:04 AM   #23
Epi
Registered User
 
Epi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 3,120
Likes (Received): 77

I'd have to say Chicago. The tower is much better (not a fan of the top pointy thing in the Toronto one) at the top, and also the bottom street part is much more grand.
Epi no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 23rd, 2007, 07:48 AM   #24
salvius
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,494
Likes (Received): 12

Chicago is getting a better deal here, but I don't mind what we're getting. Lots of people dislike it though.
salvius no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 23rd, 2007, 08:02 AM   #25
krull
In Time
 
krull's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: New York City
Posts: 3,072
Likes (Received): 58

Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian Chocho View Post
What comeback, he just basically repeated what I said but put Cicago where Toronto was and vice-versa.
Exactly.
krull no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 24th, 2007, 05:11 AM   #26
caltrane74
Registered User
 
caltrane74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 997
Likes (Received): 71

I'm from Toronto.

But I like Chicago's better. Its so tall and for sure has the more modern design.
caltrane74 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 24th, 2007, 05:17 AM   #27
newyorkrunaway1
Skyscraper Guru
 
newyorkrunaway1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 835
Likes (Received): 8

although i love both of them, the one in Chicago is the better lookign one.
newyorkrunaway1 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 24th, 2007, 06:18 AM   #28
nitzomoe
Scarebarian
 
nitzomoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Calgary
Posts: 598
Likes (Received): 1

not a fan of either buildings, so many examples of similar architecture, though if I had to choose I'd say chicago because of the nice curves.
nitzomoe no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 24th, 2007, 07:49 PM   #29
chromebowler
Registered User
 
chromebowler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Baltimore & Minneapolis
Posts: 249
Likes (Received): 26

I like the Chicago Trump body because of the setbacks set at heights to match surrounding landmarks. However, I think the Toronto Trump has a nicer design at the top. I'd like to see more renderings of both side by side...
chromebowler no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2007, 04:34 AM   #30
Canadian Chocho
Registered User
 
Canadian Chocho's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Managua/Toronto
Posts: 3,470
Likes (Received): 28

Quote:
Originally Posted by krull View Post
Exactly.
Mhm..
__________________
Colonial Cities

1 2 3
Canadian Chocho no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2007, 05:58 AM   #31
Jules
Registered User
 
Jules's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,533
Likes (Received): 37

Trump Toronto is a solid design. The top could be better, but besides that, it's pretty nice...

...but, Trump Chicago is already under construction. It's some twenty floors up, and its already looking magnificent. This one is going to be an absolute gem.
Jules no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2007, 06:03 AM   #32
jeicow
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,044
Likes (Received): 2

I'm going to go with neither. Trump Chicago is much more massive, has the more "scenic" location, and has the better height. Trump Chicago doesn't really end though all that hot at the top. The body is nice, but it's like they suddenly hit the maxiumum height and decided to still a pole up there. Trump Toronto is more connected to the financial center (from what I remember on my trip to Chicago, though TO's financial center has always been more focused at one pount), has the better roof ending, and will have the biggest impact on the city (tho that's likely a bias opinion). But honestly, both are really high in my books. They'll both be huge benefits to their respective cities but don't seem like landmarks to me. Actually, none of Trump's stuff seem like landmarks to me except his casinos.
jeicow no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2007, 09:15 AM   #33
mudvayneimn
Evry City Nds a Blk Box!
 
mudvayneimn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 330
Likes (Received): 17

I prefer the Toronto...I don't know why I like it more.
mudvayneimn no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2007, 06:34 PM   #34
J.P.V
Registered User
 
J.P.V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary
Posts: 28
Likes (Received): 0

Toronto's version suits the skyline and the buildings around it, very nice building, but the Chicago version has an excellent location on the river and overlooking Lake Michigan. Also Chicago's tower is more interesting than the Toronto version.
J.P.V no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 27th, 2007, 04:38 AM   #35
jess19
Registered User
 
jess19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 92
Likes (Received): 1

I love the sleek design of Toronto's, which complements the skyline very well.
jess19 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 27th, 2007, 10:26 PM   #36
Zaki
Joi Bangla
 
Zaki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,236
Likes (Received): 4

I find Toronto's design is nicer and fits better with the area but then chicago's is taller and has a better location AND is already under construction. Damn this is hard, i will go with Chicago.

btw for the people saying these are the best trump designs, go check out what trump has in store for Dubai. purely breathtaking.
Zaki no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 28th, 2007, 11:12 PM   #37
sl64
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 161
Likes (Received): 0

I like Chicago's better. It almost looks like a curvy, modernised interpretation of the Sears Tower from some angles. I'm not as big a fan of the standard reflective blue glass, but it's still better than what we're getting in Toronto. Also, the Chicago tower is located in a better place to show off its height, whereas the Toronto tower will be wedged directly between the city's two tallest existing 'scrapers and across the street from a 700 foot tower.

I would love to see Trump Toronto built, even in its current state, because no one else would build so tall on such a small parcel of land and so it's our only chance to get a 1000+ footer built there. However, I wouldn't mind terribly if it were delayed just long enough to necessitate a redesign.
sl64 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 29th, 2007, 04:33 AM   #38
algonquin
Registered User
 
algonquin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Ontario
Posts: 3,010
Likes (Received): 22

If anything, I'd choose Chicago's over Toronto's, but I have problems with both.

I've been critical with Trump Toronto since day one. There's so much wrong with it, I have to do it point-form:

1. It's a bona-fide fashion crime. Think about it.... from looking at the rendering, one might think that it's a new tower that incorporates the facade of an existing building (which is, by itself, a questionable practice). It's not; the site is currently a parking lot. It's 'faux facadism' for god's sake.

2. The transition from opaque to glass seems haphazard.

3. The site is simply too small for such a large building. All of Toronto's tallest towers are buffered with a combination of podiums, plazas, and smaller buildings that anchor a complex. There is no room here for any of this, and I doubt that this building can contribute to Toronto's existing PATH system. Planning-wise, it doesn't fit in it's context.

4. What's with the massing? It's backwards. Usually buildings taper away from the street, not towards it. This could be an intruiging idea, but I don't think it works here.

5. Toronto's skyline is predominately modern. This is going to stick out like a sore thumb. The city needs to look forward and stick to it's modernist strengths, and this POS will look akward with such company. As an example of whats good for Toronto, refer to the below rendering of Shangri-la, a proposed hotel a few blocks from Trump. Or even Libeskinds proposal for the Hummingbird centre. Look forward, not backward.

6. The location is as prime as real-estate can get in Toronto, so in that sense it's appropriate. However, being sandwiched in between Toronto's tallest buildings, it will contribute almost nothing to the skyline, despite it's height. In fact, I'm pretty sure it won't be visible from the lake.

I sincerely hope that Trump Toronto doesn't get built, and I'm guessing that it won't.

As for Trump Chicago, I like it better simply because it's modern, though I share the common sentiment here that the top needs refinement. I particularly like the horizontal banding.

Shangri-La, Toronto

algonquin no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 29th, 2007, 07:26 PM   #39
prelude91
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chicago...Soon to be Washington D.C.
Posts: 1,240
Likes (Received): 2

I love both towers...slightly more intrigued with TT Chicago.


Quote:
Originally Posted by algonquin View Post
I sincerely hope that Trump Toronto doesn't get built, and I'm guessing that it won't. [IMG]
We will take it if you dont want it
prelude91 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 29th, 2007, 08:44 PM   #40
Miso
Bang Bang!
 
Miso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Toluca
Posts: 2,082
Likes (Received): 0

I prefe the one of Chicago!, they are very similar in design.... extremely similar... like sears tower, jajajajjaja.

But Chicago has more relation with the city by using th public domain of the square....
__________________
If nature answers you, take it as an absolute truth
Miso no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 05:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu