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Old January 20th, 2007, 12:06 PM   #1
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КАЛИНИНГРАД | Рыбная деревня


О проекте

В далекие времена в центре Кенигсберга на берегу реки Преголи располагалась рыбная деревня, знаменитая на всю Европу торговлей рыбы. Место это было весьма удачливым для купцов и негоциантов, спокойным для флибустьеров и бурным для рыбаков и простолюдинов. Позднее по этим местам гуляли Кант и Суворов, Эйлер и Растрелли, Петр I и Вильгельм II, Мюнхгаузен и многие другие исторические личности.

Компания проектного финансирования решила возродить рыбную деревню, в состав которой входил бы комплекс сооружений разной направленности. На территории «Рыбной Деревни» предполагается реализовать весь спектр услуг современного бизнеса. Здесь будет всё для делового человека и ученого, торговца и туриста, яхтсмена и просто человека, захотевшего отдохнуть несколько дней: представительства российских и европейских банков, крупнейших компаний, ведущих торговлю с Европой и Азией; конгресс-холлы для встреч деловой, научной и промышленной High-Tech-элиты; центр туризма; международная пристань для яхт и многое другое, что поможет им лучше организовать свой бизнес, удовлетворить культурные и интеллектуальные запросы. Привлекательной особенностью комплекса высококлассных услуг станет этнографическое содержание, отражающее богатую многовековую историю региона.

По замыслу архитекторов «Рыбная деревня» будет состоять из 20 объектов, объединенных в 3 квартальных образования. Архитектурно-стилистически она выстроена в виде последовательной «иллюстрации в камне» исторических стилей Кёнигсберга-Калининграда: архитектурная стилистика Орденского периода, готика, классицизм, барокко, модернизм. Таким образом, реализация проекта «Создание этнографического и ремесленно-торгового центра «Рыбная Деревня» позволит начать системное формирование классического образа Калининграда, изменит его облик и станет своеобразной визитной карточкой города.

Один из объектов проекта – пешеходный разводной мост через р.Преголю – уже воплощен в реальность и стал вкладом Компании проектного финансирования в решение социальных проблем города, связав короткой дорогой школу, микрорайон и деловую часть города. Реализация же проекта в целом позволит поднять на качественно новый уровень индустрию туризма в регионе, даст толчок для развития малого предпринимательства и будет способствовать расширению международного сотрудничества.

Проект по-хорошему амбициозен, является примером частно-государственного партнерства и реальным воплощением требований Президента РФ В.В. Путина о насущной необходимости постановки и решения больших задач.


1 Квартал "Башня Альбрехта"


8 Гостиница "Кружка Кайзера"


2 Квартал "Двор Каролины"


9 Административно-деловой центр "Рыбная биржа"



3 Гостиница "Суворов"


10 Комплекс "Прегольский пассаж"


4 Информационный центр


11 Квартал "Староганзейский"


5 Видовая башня "Маяк"


12 Культурно-деловой центр "Башня Бесселя"


6 Речной вокзал с гостиницей


13 Видовая башня "Ломзе"


7 Спортивно-развлекательный центр "Гребной клуб"


14 Здание для обслуживания механизмов моста


15 Разводной мост через р.Преголю
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Old January 20th, 2007, 01:55 PM   #2
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Гостиница "Суворов" довольно эргономично выглядит, вроде и "под старинку" и неаляповато. А самый аляповатый - Кружка Кайзера
Но в целом пусть строят, все равно город наполовину разрушен, этот квартал я думаю его украсит.
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31 мая 2006

В Калининграде началось строительство "Рыбной деревни" - стилизованного под средневековый Кенигсберг этнографического и ремесленно-торгового центра на берегу реки Преголи. Первым объектом станет деловой центр "Рыбная биржа"

Деловая "Рыбная биржа", а также информационный центр с видовой башней "Маяк", отель "Кружка кайзера", офисно-деловой комплекс "Речной вокзал" с молодежной гостиницей "Берген" будут сданы в эксплуатацию к началу 2008 года. Их общая площадь составит 1,5 гектара.

http://www.travel.ru/news/2006/05/31/90186.html
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Old June 11th, 2007, 01:19 PM   #4
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From what i've seen, it's a very bad quality rebuilding, but gotta give thumbs up atleast for trying to restore what you've destroyed...

Somewhere in second week of April:


some apartment building u/c right infront of cathedral and mentioned above project.


As for the whole city, there are maybe something like 1/5 of the constructions neighbouring Klaipeda has - some tacky looking buildings in centre, mainly nearby central square and some residential quarters u/c in southern part of the city. The one project i trully liked was the cleanesing of once Louisen lake (dont remember how it's called now) - looked trully like a large scalle revitalization in northern part of the city, though it most probably has something to do of it beeing in a district where mainly rich folks live (sadlly dont have the pictures, my camera was already off...).
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From what i've seen, it's a very bad quality rebuilding, but gotta give thumbs up atleast for trying to restore what you've destroyed
It's not rebuilding, it's a new district with "old-style" architecture.
And Kalinigrad is a part of a sovereign country, it owes nothing to the likes of you, so your comments of how this city is beign developed are unwelcome.
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And Kalinigrad is a part of a sovereign country, it owes nothing to the likes of you, so your comments of how this city is beign developed are unwelcome.
As much as you or your countrymen may not care, the region was largely lithuanian and german throughout most of recorded history, russians are present there for only 60 years, most of which all you did there guys were looting and destroying. Now you may not respect, or care much about other cultures or their heritage (as you did throughout most of your history), but we will care and stick our nose in the region forever, since it's our cultural heritage that russians are destroying there.

BTW, ex-Lithuanian lutheran church and Liudvikas Rėza (lithuanian writer and poet, University professor, one of the most famous Konigsberg citizens) square, which's restoration was financed by Vilnius municipality.
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You are free to whine about your heritage and evil russians in your section of the forum, why come here?
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As much as you or your countrymen may not care, the region was largely lithuanian and german throughout most of recorded history, russians are present there for only 60 years, most of which all you did there guys were looting and destroying. Now you may not respect, or care much about other cultures or their heritage (as you did throughout most of your history), but we will care and stick our nose in the region forever, since it's our cultural heritage that russians are destroying there.

BTW, ex-Lithuanian lutheran church and Liudvikas R?za (lithuanian writer and poet, University professor, one of the most famous Konigsberg citizens) square, which's restoration was financed by Vilnius municipality.
You can go troll elsewhere with your pseudo-racism. Stop generalising everyone with petty allegations about how a group of over 140 million people never respect "other cultures or their heritage". I can direct the same back at you by highlighting your apparent disrespect for the Russian culture and heritage.

The city is Russian, because Russians live there. Russians live there, because of a range of historical circumstances. It was not always so of course. But this specific city, along with a whole load of others in Europe, has always been a mixture of cultures, and which specific culture dominated it has always changed over the centuries.

Every nation that is tied in with a city's history, should have a say on how its developed, but the main decisions should be left, as in any modern society, to the people who live there. Other countries can probably increase their influence there by any number of Foreign Investments, Cultural and Educational exchanges, Tourism, etc... But never expect the Owner to yield its power there by the use of Threats, Political Subversion, or plain ol' Bitchin' and Complainin'

The city will most likely remain Russian whether you like it or not, so get used to it. Once you get over it, maybe you can start to appreciate the place for what it is, instead of build Hate and Disgust over what you think, it should be.

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You are free to whine about your heritage and evil russians in your section of the forum, why come here?
I only posted few pictures and said a few words about the development in Kaliningrad with no bad intentions at all, since the city is barely presented here in SSC.

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Stop generalising everyone with petty allegations about how a group of over 140 million people never respect "other cultures or their heritage".
Never meant to generalise and blame all of Russia and russians.

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The city will most likely remain Russian whether you like it or not, so get used to it. Once you get over it, maybe you can start to appreciate the place for what it is, instead of build Hate and Disgust over what you think, it should be.
Can you guys ever learn to accept the criticts without throwing around all those big words - hate, disgust, whining,.... where and why do they come here? I only stated what i've come to experiance from some of local population while criss-crossing the region this april...

I know it's part of Russia and i have no problems with that as long as it's beeing kept well. Though i do believe that locals would be doing much better on their own.
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I only posted few pictures and said a few words about the development in Kaliningrad with no bad intentions at all, since the city is barely presented here in SSC.
The city is mostly presented by "Omg Lol Kalinigrad is a biggets shithole in Europe lol" posts by people from your part of the forum and that's why i prefer that presenting Kalinigrad being left to russians.
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I'm afraid locals will not like to be classified as second class people

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I have to agree with whatever, this project is ugly as hell
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I have to agree with whatever, this project is ugly as hell
Thanks for sharing with us, now please get out of here.

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I have to agree with whatever, this project is ugly as hell
For God's sake... where did i said that?

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well i can assure you it definetly is not
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Thanks for sharing with us, now please get out of here.

I said something wrong? This is kitsch. Looks like something from Las Vegas.
It's international forum and i can say my opininon. It's only discusion..
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I only posted few pictures and said a few words about the development in Kaliningrad with no bad intentions at all, since the city is barely presented here in SSC.



Never meant to generalise and blame all of Russia and russians.



Can you guys ever learn to accept the criticts without throwing around all those big words - hate, disgust, whining,.... where and why do they come here? I only stated what i've come to experiance from some of local population while criss-crossing the region this april...

I know it's part of Russia and i have no problems with that as long as it's beeing kept well. Though i do believe that locals would be doing much better on their own.
Glad to see that we got the discussion to a more civilized level. You are free to make any critisism you like, but please pay attention to what I say next:

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From what i've seen, it's a very bad quality rebuilding, but gotta give thumbs up atleast for trying to restore what you've destroyed...
The part highlighted in bold is a valid critisism that I would have taken at face value from you. The part not highlighted in bold, gives me the impression that you have a bone to pick with the current residents (Russians) and that you have an agenda.

Once people start thinking you have an agenda, your critisisms will be responded negatively to (as illustrated by Gamma-Hamster), as people will not believe you.

Now you made some unambigous statements in your first few posts that sharply contrast to the more conversative phrases you are making now. Fair enough let's forget the ugliness, and if you have any more photos of Kaliningrad, please do share them with us.

As for the locals doing better on their own, maybe so and maybe not. It could be that Kalingrad does more of its trade with the EU in the future. It could also be that the entire Baltic region ends up doing more trade with Russia than the EU in the future (the economic dominance of St. Petersburg comes to mind).

Neither scenario is an excuse to violate borders.

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Im going to have to say that the project itself, while not exactly historically authentic (and somewhat disneyworld-ish) its still better than nothing. Before construction, the area was overgrown with abandoned warehouses.

Economically, construction has reached potential yet as due to post-soviet economic decline, the Kaliningrad oblast is still 10 years behind its neighbors.

As Flamming_Python mentioned, hopefully there can be an increase in EU trade, (realistically Kaliningrad has no choice but to trade with EU).

As for the whole cultural idenitity issue, many Eastern European cities have been swapped between countries in the past 60 years.
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The part highlighted in bold is a valid critisism that I would have taken at face value from you. The part not highlighted in bold, gives me the impression that you have a bone to pick with the current residents (Russians) and that you have an agenda.
Said that because the city was only partially destroyed during the war - bigger part of destruction was done systematically during 60's and 70's

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Fair enough let's forget the ugliness, and if you have any more photos of Kaliningrad, please do share them with us..
I will, as soon as i'll finish my spring exam session
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Said that because the city was only partially destroyed during the war - bigger part of destruction was done systematically during 60's and 70's



I will, as soon as i'll finish my spring exam session
Now I understand. Certainly I can imagine a great deal of damage was done during those years, during a time when the whole of Europe was undergoing a depressive Architectural phase. From what I heard, there are plans to rebuild the Konisberg Castle. Hopefully the quality of the constructions will improve if the city hopes to attract substancial tourism and financial capital.
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As much as you or your countrymen may not care, the region was largely lithuanian and german throughout most of recorded history, russians are present there for only 60 years
I'm a bit confused... Here is a map from 1828, would you mind to point me, where is actually Lithuania? I just can' find it, I see Russia, but I just can't find Lithuania anywhere...



Ohhh, wait a second... now making a little zoom, I see something... ummm... according to this map Vilna is actually located in Russia...



The map is taken from alabamamaps.ua.edu/historicalmaps/europe/europe2.html

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You're an ignorant fool, you know that?

I can very much show this map and say:

I'm a bit confused... Here is a map of 1430, would you mind to point me, where is acctually Russia? I just can't find it, I see Lithuania, but i can't find Russia anywhere...

Ohh, wait a second... now looking a bit closer, i see something... umm... according to this map, Moscow, Novgorod and others actually belong to Mongolia...

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