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Old December 18th, 2006, 12:07 AM   #221
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I'm very interested in seeing how the condo floorplans look. Are there any pics out there that anybody knows of?
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Old December 18th, 2006, 12:26 AM   #222
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looks more like a pentagon or hexagon now. i still like the previouse design better but i would'nt think of this as just settleing.
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Old December 18th, 2006, 07:16 AM   #223
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Wow, this building is SHARP

I like the new plans even better

I like how each individual floor protrudes out at the end of the twist.

It better allows you to see what a tiny peice of the magnificent "whole" each floor is, which in my opinion makes the building look bigger and grander.
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Old December 18th, 2006, 02:41 PM   #224
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More renderings originaly posted by spyguy in SSP
I don't think the spire is needed at all. The building texture is hypnotic.
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Old December 18th, 2006, 09:38 PM   #225
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It's magnificiant! The detail is awesome!
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Old December 18th, 2006, 10:14 PM   #226
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I can't imagine how awesome this building would look if it had lights running along those white support beams or whatever they are.
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Old December 19th, 2006, 12:25 AM   #227
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Lights running along the curved paths would be incredibly gauche .....pull away from the grandeur of this building and essentially make it look like an oversized xmas display
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Old December 19th, 2006, 02:48 PM   #228
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...We are doing a poll on NewcitySkyline regarding the design of the building and we are going to be sending the results to Mr Calatrava's office and the developer. We are also going to be asking our readers for their comments about the changes made to the new design and those will also be sent to Calatrava's office. So if you have anything to say about it or want to participate on the poll please go to our Polls page and cast your vote.
Go to the newcityskyline link and vote for/against the spire.

I like that website. It is fun and enjoyable.
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Old December 19th, 2006, 03:15 PM   #229
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Lights running along the curved paths would be incredibly gauche .....pull away from the grandeur of this building and essentially make it look like an oversized xmas display
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Old December 19th, 2006, 06:44 PM   #230
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I'm sure everyone fell in love with the spires, so it might look a little awkward without its hat, but that is a beautiful-looking structure right there. I can't believe it's going to hit 2,000 feet without the spires. 150 floors? Goodness gracious, that's awesome and unreal. So is this thing definitely going up now or what? Really happy to see this update.
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Old December 19th, 2006, 11:00 PM   #231
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its 160 floors XD

I sure hope an accurate fan render is in the works...

and I hope this one gets approved, financed (as in sell units) AND built ._.
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Old December 19th, 2006, 11:34 PM   #232
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I just had a cool idea... What if we resurrect the Lindbergh Light and put it at the top of this baby? Just like the Palmolive Building originally was, it will have no competition for height.
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Old December 20th, 2006, 12:31 AM   #233
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Or have a superpowerful light pointing straight up into the heavens like Luxor in Vegas. Maybe that could make up for lake of a spire.
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Old December 20th, 2006, 12:39 AM   #234
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Or have a superpowerful light pointing straight up into the heavens like Luxor in Vegas. Maybe that could make up for lake of a spire.

Good idea.

Let me think about this one for awhile.
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Old December 20th, 2006, 06:15 AM   #235
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At 2000ft, wouldn't aviation lighting be mandatory? I'd prefer sweeping laser beams reminiscent of the Lindberg light that streaked across the Chicago night sky.
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Old December 20th, 2006, 01:37 PM   #236
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Tower developer to set up shop in Chicago

BY SUSAN DIESENHOUSE
Published December 20, 2006

A new tenant scheduled to soon move into about 7,000 square feet on the 50th floor at 111 S. Wacker Drive could have a greater impact on the Chicago property market than this small amount of space indicates.

This will be the in-town home for Dublin-based Shelbourne Development Ltd. as it refines plans to build a 2,000-foot-high lakefront residential tower that could become the nation's tallest building.

The wood-paneled walls and luxury furnishings being installed will be a showplace for planning the 160-story, spiral-shaped structure designed by Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava that could cost close to $2 billion to develop.
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Old December 21st, 2006, 09:02 AM   #237
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At 2000ft, wouldn't aviation lighting be mandatory? I'd prefer sweeping laser beams reminiscent of the Lindberg light that streaked across the Chicago night sky.
Collision lighting is required on all buildings 250 feet taller than the ground around them, altough I think there are exceptions for short buildings in urban areas, this one certainly won't be covered by that.
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Old December 22nd, 2006, 02:33 AM   #238
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Controversial skyscraper plan gets new look

By Blair Kamin
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Published December 21, 2006, 3:05 PM CST


Addressing criticism sparked by the latest plan for a 2,000-foot-tall twisting skyscraper along Chicago's lakefront, the project's developer and architect have quietly shopped an alternative version to Mayor Richard Daley, community groups and leaders of the city's architecture community, according to people familiar with the discussions.

The alternative design has a tapering, tip-like summit instead of the nearly flat dome in the proposal that was unveiled in early December and attracted a volley of criticism, people at the meetings said. They added that the tower's top has regained some of the whirring, twisting look that led Chicagoans to affectionately dub the proposed skyscraper "The Drill Bit." And now, they said, a thin shaft of light would shoot upwards from the tower at night, extending its presence into the sky.

People who attended the meetings also said that the tower's architect, Zurich-based Santiago Calatrava, made a presentation showing that the skyscraper would be far more slender than comparable supertall buildings such as Sears Tower. The move apparently was aimed at rebutting the view that the proposed tower has grown too bulky because Dublin-based developer Garrett Kelleher wants to nearly triple the number of units.

The skyscraper would be the nation's tallest building, eclipsing both the current titleholder, the 1,450-foot Sears Tower, and the 1,776-foot Freedom Tower in New York, scheduled for completion in 2011.

At least some in attendance found the latest version of the 160-story luxury condominium tower, which would be built at an empty site on the Chicago River's north bank at Lake Shore Drive, a significant improvement.

"It's like nothing else in North America," said Donna Robertson, dean of the architecture school at the Illinois Institute of Technology. "It's innovative. It puts Chicago on the map."

Daley also has been shown the alternative version of the tower, which is called "Version D," a spokeswoman for the developer said. It is not known how Daley, who is intensely interested in architecture, reacted. In 2005, the mayor ordered flamboyant New York developer Donald Trump to put a spire on top of his 92-story hotel and condominium tower under construction alongside the landmark Wrigley Building.

Kelleher filed his proposal with the city Dec. 8 and immediately encountered resistance, with many observers saying the design was far less attractive than the plans for the skyscraper unveiled in July 2005 and March 2006 by the project's previous developer, Christopher Carley of Chicago. Carley's versions were topped by a broadcast tower that also served as a spire, but Kelleher eliminated it, along with a hotel that Carley wanted to place on the tower's lower floors.

An influential community group, the Streeterville Organization of Active Residents, expressed disappointment with the design and the proposed increase in the number of units, which it predicted would aggravate traffic congestion in the already-clogged area west of Navy Pier.

And Ald. Burton Natarus (42nd), in whose ward the project would be built, said he was concerned about the project's size and its effect on traffic, adding a political obstacle to the economic hurdles the megatower faces.

The cost of the project once was estimated at $1.2 billion, but Kelleher's Shelbourne Development has not provided an updated figure. Kelleher assumed control of the project last summer after Carley's drive to build it faltered.

The groups shown the alternative version of the project include SOAR, the Chicago Architecture Foundation and the Chicago chapter of the American Institute of Architects, according to people familiar with the meetings. Several of the groups saw the plans Wednesday in the offices of the associate architects for the project, Chicago-based Perkins + Will.

In addition, the Illinois Institute of Technology on Tuesday hosted a dinner party at which Calatrava and Kelleher presented the design to leading figures in the city's design community. Among those attending the event, held in Crown Hall, master modernist Ludwig Mies van der Rohe's renowned temple of steel and glass, were Joseph Rosa, the Art Institute of Chicago's curator of architecture and design, and Ed Uhlir, the design director for Millennium Park, people familiar with the event said.

At the IIT meeting, people who attended say, the project's backers argued that the elimination of the hotel would lessen, rather than aggravate, traffic congestion. Without the hotel, fewer taxicabs would head to the tower, some present at the meeting said. In addition, they said, many of the tower's residents are expected to be affluent residents who would not live in Chicago during the winter months, further reducing the tower's effect on congestion.

The flurry of meetings is a prelude to a still-to-be-scheduled hearing before the Chicago Plan Commission, which could be held as early as January. Constance Buscemi, a spokeswoman for the Department of Planning and Developing, said city officials "still need to meet with the development team and look at the design in more detail." The city's Transportation Department is also scrutinizing the plans.

Kelleher wants to break ground by June.

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Old December 22nd, 2006, 05:08 AM   #239
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this new design is not pretty. It looks more or less like a giant *****

go to SSP and check it out.
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Old December 22nd, 2006, 02:40 PM   #240
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this new design is not pretty. It looks more or less like a giant *****

go to SSP and check it out.
No one (except BV) that we know of has actually seen the design. Everything over there are paint and photoshop hacks by forumers.

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