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Old October 22nd, 2007, 08:56 AM   #3721
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I dont think anything will happen in 5-10 years, but in 10-20 there is a very good possibility that it will change but only far away from major airports.
Don't count on it. The FAA certainly isn't known for their cheetah-like pace when it comes to system-wide change.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 11:22 AM   #3722
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NYC in population 3 x 1. For USA CBDs, I believe: 1) Midtown (Manhattan NYC); 2) Loop (Chicago); 3) Lower Manhattan/Financial District (NYC).

But Chicago's CBD is also undergoing a big new influx of residential units, like the Chicago Spire.
thanks for info.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 01:48 PM   #3723
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With the 9000 times it's been said, it's amazing how many people still don't know about the 2000' limit in the U.S.
For the 9,000th time it's been said, you can build past 2000' it just requires more certifications. The Chicago WTC proposal got clearance for it, but that project never became a reality.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 04:03 PM   #3724
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 04:05 PM   #3725
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Oct 22 - AM - Slurry wall

Slurry wall stuff, not quite sure how this works.









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Old October 22nd, 2007, 04:08 PM   #3726
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Chicago "Close"

In Scotland we were introduced to a close - a narrow alley from the times when cities were still walled - recreating the feel in Chicago







sidewalk will be removed - reasons unknown to this crew.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 06:10 PM   #3727
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everything about this site is just odd. (well to me anyway, I havent seen all these machines before)
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 07:27 PM   #3728
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 01:08 AM   #3729
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For the 9,000th time it's been said, you can build past 2000' it just requires more certifications. The Chicago WTC proposal got clearance for it, but that project never became a reality.
aaaa.....wonderful news...thank you!!!!
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 03:30 AM   #3730
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Can't wait to see this start to rise!
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 04:45 AM   #3731
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nice tower...

but...

ugly decked road between the tower and the lake... can you imagine the view from the first dozen floors... yikes.. can't they bury the road...ala 'the big dig'?

both Portland and SF demolished similar decked roadways in the past two decades... if the Fed can pay $20billion for Boston, can't they do something in Chicago?...

can you imagine how ugle hong kong would be with a decked roadway along the water's edge in Central?
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 04:58 AM   #3732
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nice tower...

but...

ugly decked road between the tower and the lake... can you imagine the view from the first dozen floors... yikes.. can't they bury the road...ala 'the big dig'?

both Portland and SF demolished similar decked roadways in the past two decades... if the Fed can pay $20billion for Boston, can't they do something in Chicago?...

can you imagine how ugle hong kong would be with a decked roadway along the water's edge in Central?
The decked roadway is only at the river for LSD.

The Lobby rises above LSD

A screen is planned.

All of downtown Chicago is raised with "decked roadway" on both sides of the river, decked sidewalks ( vaulted in the local lingo ) are common both downtown and in many neighborhoods. The bottom level of the roads are a foot or so above the waterline, although the subways and underground freight system are below this level it complicates construction and operation, and has a significant risk.

The Spire will have 7 levels of parking below ground/river.
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 05:16 AM   #3733
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so what if I want to walk to the Navy Pier from the Spire?... walk under the the decked LSD?... must be tough to maket the spire due to that... the spire will become a drive-in high-rise with no foot traffice in/out.

i thought chi-town was 'can do'.... why can't they "big-dig" LSD at the river?
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 05:24 AM   #3734
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so what if I want to walk to the Navy Pier from the Spire?... walk under the the decked LSD?... must be tough to maket the spire due to that... the spire will become a drive-in high-rise with no foot traffice in/out.

i thought chi-town was 'can do'.... why can't they "big-dig" LSD at the river?
The bridge is a part of history. There is nothing wrong with it. If you wanted to walk to navy pier from the spire you simply cross the bridge, there is a large sidewalk for pedestrians. Also there are plans for a dedicated pedestrian bridge, but whether that will become a reality or not is still up in the air.

You can see the bridge here:

Granted the road is not the same any longer (the S curve is gone), the bridge is still the same.

As harryc said, you won't be able to see the road because there will be a "dynamic screen" as they called it.

The other side of the bridge will be the new DuSable Park. Plenty of pedestrian friendly space.
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 06:21 AM   #3735
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Can't wait to see this start to rise!

That's what she said last night.
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 08:56 AM   #3736
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thats a great old photo, and has anyone figured out why they were removing that sidewalk?
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 09:04 AM   #3737
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I love old pictures of Chicago!
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 01:49 PM   #3738
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thats a great old photo, and has anyone figured out why they were removing that sidewalk?
Removing which sidewalk ? the old picture shows LSD with the S-Curve ( real fun the first time )

The sidewalks that are currently on the ( rebuilt ) middle deck are being removed as part of the ramps project. I imagine there will be crosswalks and even curb cuts.

The lower decks of LSD are ( were ) hidden by tall earthen berms on the East ( side with the lake ) the bike trail is on top of the South berm. This is a very busy trail. The wooden ramps have been rebuilt once already.
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 04:07 PM   #3739
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Looks like the steel wedge shape in the center is being used as formwork to align the overlapping piling sheets into a circular wall.

The framework being erected in front of the residential terraces may be to protect their windows during construction. Nice huh.
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 04:38 PM   #3740
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Can someone pull a current side by side picture for a before and after shot with the above picture? (I would but cant from work) It is mind blowing to see how that area of the river has changed.
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