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Old January 27th, 2008, 12:44 AM   #4961
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A picture of the model that they have in Ireland can be seen here:
http://www.thechancer.ie/2008/01/24/...ntre-unveiled/

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Film stars and fireworks at the Spire's big launch

By angela phelan
Saturday January 26 2008
http://www.independent.ie/entertainm...h-1274736.html

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and one more article:
http://bscenesocial.blogspot.com/200...in-launch.html
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Old January 27th, 2008, 02:30 AM   #4962
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Anyone knows how this hole deep is? For freedom tower its 'bout 80 Feets. Here, it looks not so deep.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 07:55 AM   #4963
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Well freedom tower had a head start when the WORLD TRADE CENTER CAME DOWN! This hole will be deeper.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 12:38 PM   #4964
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according to this plan the hole will not be deeper:

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Yes these questions were answered in detail over the last 3 months.

In short - good blue clay, and a layer of sand.
CASE has constructed a wall, 86' deep on the slip side ( nearest the water ) and they are quickly completing the rest of the perimeter wall.

An educated guess as to the foundation.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 01:36 AM   #4965
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Hey guys i know this might sound stupid but is it really safe for them to build it close to the lake? from somewhere i heard that the lake moves a few inches every year, But i doubt thats true, what do you guys think?
Yes, water is the most powerful force on the planet, but with proper engineering, it's no big deal. Remember, the Burj Al Arab is in the ocean:

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Old January 28th, 2008, 07:20 AM   #4966
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Hey guys i know this might sound stupid but is it really safe for them to build it close to the lake? from somewhere i heard that the lake moves a few inches every year, But i doubt thats true, what do you guys think?
Thats what the barier walls are for, to keep back the river. Also Most of lower Manhattan is built on a junk yard...but its still there.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 04:00 PM   #4967
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Jan 28 - AM

View from above


Now a bottomless pit ( I can't keep from thinking of "THIS is CHICAGO !!!" from 300 )



Ramp work
The forms

Vinyl coated rebar

Trust in your work, parking on the new span


Wall sections ( wouldn't want to get grime on B-Vic and his boat )


Mini drill rig




Anchor for river wall, Slurry wall, and Secant wall


Boats heading to Navy pier ? ( 6 or more total )


River thawing


Contrails in the morning.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 04:36 PM   #4968
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Hey guys i know this might sound stupid but is it really safe for them to build it close to the lake? from somewhere i heard that the lake moves a few inches every year, But i doubt thats true, what do you guys think?
The lake does move a few small inches every year. For the last five years the lake has significantly receeded.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 04:40 PM   #4969
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Thats what the barier walls are for, to keep back the river. Also Most of lower Manhattan is built on a junk yard...but its still there.
Actually so is the area where the Spire will be built. Most of the land from Michigan Ave (between the river and Oak street) to the lake is all land fill. Historically the area was a dump site for an old lake capitan named Streeter.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 04:52 PM   #4970
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Actually so is the area where the Spire will be built. Most of the land from Michigan Ave (between the river and Oak street) to the lake is all land fill. Historically the area was a dump site for an old lake capitan named Streeter.
A very interesting piece of history - if my boat is stuck offshore it isn't in your city.
http://www.capstreeter.com/
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Old January 28th, 2008, 06:42 PM   #4971
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Old January 28th, 2008, 10:22 PM   #4972
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Great updates Harry! How many concrete rings have they installed thus far? It's kinda hard to see in the hole from thoes angles.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 10:25 PM   #4973
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Old January 28th, 2008, 11:21 PM   #4974
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Remember, the Burj Al Arab is in the ocean:
just a correction, Burj Alarab located in a gulf not ocean

I have a small question off topic
is that a 2-story highway? (the one on front of the spire)
or it is just a bridge?
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Old January 28th, 2008, 11:26 PM   #4975
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Yes, water is the most powerful force on the planet, but with proper engineering, it's no big deal. Remember, the Burj Al Arab is in the ocean:

Oh thanks, i understand a bit now, and thanks to all who answered
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Old January 28th, 2008, 11:27 PM   #4976
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just a correction, Burj Alarab located in a gulf not ocean

I have a small question off topic
is that a 2-story highway? (the one on front of the spire)
or it is just a bridge?
It's two stories. Through traffic on the upper level and street intersections on the lower level.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 11:28 PM   #4977
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Great pics.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 11:29 PM   #4978
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thanks for your quick response
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Old January 29th, 2008, 02:49 AM   #4979
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It's two stories. Through traffic on the upper level and street intersections on the lower level.
That's a really cool idea, I mean I understand why such roads are not popular and are often considered an eyesore but it must be incredibly efficient in high traffic areas. Sorry for offtopicness but it's quite interesting... to me at least :P
Oh and harryc, you're the man! Thanks to all who keep this thread updated and share your knowledge with the rest of us.
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Old January 29th, 2008, 10:24 AM   #4980
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That's a really cool idea, I mean I understand why such roads are not popular and are often considered an eyesore but it must be incredibly efficient in high traffic areas. Sorry for offtopicness but it's quite interesting... to me at least :P
Oh and harryc, you're the man! Thanks to all who keep this thread updated and share your knowledge with the rest of us.
...and quite deadly in earthquake country. During the 1989 "World Series" quake in the Frisco area, a 2 story freeway in Oakland collapsed, killing dozens on the lower level. Since then, I think they have gotten rid of most roads of this type.
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