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Old November 17th, 2006, 03:12 AM   #41
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yeksemyash , hi myah name isah borat. i like sexy time with sexy Chicago spire, high five
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Old November 17th, 2006, 05:50 AM   #42
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yeksemyash , hi myah name isah borat. i like sexy time with sexy Chicago spire, high five
you better get peoples to see you movie or you be execute.here are some scraps to feed sexy cage wife. you come to america?
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Old November 17th, 2006, 05:52 AM   #43
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Remember, the Burj has a roof height of only 2,067 (Wikipedia).
I wasn't aware that this number had been made public? I wonder where Wiki got it.
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Old November 17th, 2006, 06:13 AM   #44
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It's cited as an estimate. With one accurate dimension and an accurate diagram, you can estimate any other dimension. I assume someone just imported an image into autocad, scaled it to the total height, and then dimensioned to the roof. Or counted pixels. whatever.

Actually, the roof height of the Burj seems to me like it should be way higher, especially if the small floors above the last setback are in fact occupiable.
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Old November 17th, 2006, 05:02 PM   #45
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Yeah, it certainly sounds like a low number to me given that every other slip I've heard has been in the neighborhood of 2300 to 2600'.
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Old November 17th, 2006, 11:08 PM   #46
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but keep in mind that Borat will be able to afford the rent in the Moscow tower while not be able to buy a condo at Chicago Spire. Chicago Spire will not allow chickens or cows in its units, unlike its Russian counterpart, and uses the concept of toillets for waste disposal.

Other than that, I'm sure the two projects are quite similiar.

Don't want to burst your bubble of America the best and superior, but in reality Bortat would have a problem affording a condo in Moscow and have no problem buying a condo in Chicago. Prices of high quality real estate in Moscow are much higher than in Chicago. In fact prices in Chicago are a bargain compared to what you see in Moscow.

You might be laughing now, but think about who has 1/3 of world’s natural gas reserves and is the world’s second biggest producer of oil. All of us in the west are pumping money into the Russian economy when we pump gas into our cars and heat our homes. They are awash with petrodollars. In fact Russia exports more hydrocarbons (oil and gas) than Saudi Arabia.

Hopefully they will not be laughing at us in 10 or 15 years as we do at them today. So I would look at Russia with a bit of trepidation and not ridicule, because they might be the ones ultimately calling the shots.
Just my 2 cents, for whatever it is worth.

Sorry for going a bit off topic.
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Old November 17th, 2006, 11:21 PM   #47
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^kill joy .

yes most of chicago is pretty affordable when comparing it with other major world cities which is, in my opinion, a huge positive point and should be looked up to rather than thought of as a negative . but several neighborhoods and alot of the condow high rises going up are getting pretty expensive- 10 of millions

either way ,.....i slill like sexy time with chicago spire , yes, high five
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Old November 17th, 2006, 11:28 PM   #48
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^kill joy .

yes most of chicago is pretty affordable when comparing it with other major world cities which is, in my opinion, a huge positive point and should be looked up to rather than thought of as a negative . but several neighborhoods and alot of the condow high rises going up are getting pretty expensive- 10 of millions

either way ,.....i slill like sexy time with chicago spire , yes, high five
I also agree that affordable condos in Chicago are a great thing. I can not imagine myself living anywhere else than downtown. Now trying doing that in NYC!
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Old November 18th, 2006, 05:29 AM   #49
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Don't want to burst your bubble of America the best and superior, but in reality Bortat would have a problem affording a condo in Moscow and have no problem buying a condo in Chicago. Prices of high quality real estate in Moscow are much higher than in Chicago. In fact prices in Chicago are a bargain compared to what you see in Moscow.

You might be laughing now, but think about who has 1/3 of world’s natural gas reserves and is the world’s second biggest producer of oil. All of us in the west are pumping money into the Russian economy when we pump gas into our cars and heat our homes. They are awash with petrodollars. In fact Russia exports more hydrocarbons (oil and gas) than Saudi Arabia.

Hopefully they will not be laughing at us in 10 or 15 years as we do at them today. So I would look at Russia with a bit of trepidation and not ridicule, because they might be the ones ultimately calling the shots.
Just my 2 cents, for whatever it is worth.

Sorry for going a bit off topic.
Gee, all that....and I never even thought that America was the best and superior. You may want to try fiber.
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Old November 19th, 2006, 02:00 AM   #50
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Don't want to burst your bubble of America the best and superior, but in reality Bortat would have a problem affording a condo in Moscow and have no problem buying a condo in Chicago. Prices of high quality real estate in Moscow are much higher than in Chicago. In fact prices in Chicago are a bargain compared to what you see in Moscow.

You might be laughing now, but think about who has 1/3 of world’s natural gas reserves and is the world’s second biggest producer of oil. All of us in the west are pumping money into the Russian economy when we pump gas into our cars and heat our homes. They are awash with petrodollars. In fact Russia exports more hydrocarbons (oil and gas) than Saudi Arabia.

Hopefully they will not be laughing at us in 10 or 15 years as we do at them today. So I would look at Russia with a bit of trepidation and not ridicule, because they might be the ones ultimately calling the shots.
Just my 2 cents, for whatever it is worth.

Sorry for going a bit off topic.

No offense, but would you stop talking "POLITICS" in this productive thread, PLEASE!

Whoever brought "Borat" up into this thread is already dumb enuf and you want to join the same club by talking Chicago and Moscow... No one give a shit,take it somewhere else!
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Old November 21st, 2006, 12:17 AM   #52
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Question. Has there been any talk or concern about the fact that this building will sit on a fill area. I realize that Chicago isn't exactly earthquake central, but with a major faultline just a few hundred miles away, it seems like you wouldn't want to take any chances. Just curious.
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They'll drill caissons all the way down to bedrock like most buldings in Chicago.
Heck, I worked on a Grant Park bathroom facility that went down to bedrock. The park's land is also fill.

The bedrock is a limestone formation 420 million years old and 110 feet underground.
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They'll drill caissons all the way down to bedrock like most buldings in Chicago.
Heck, I worked on a Grant Park bathroom facility that went down to bedrock. The park's land is also fill.

The bedrock is a limestone formation 420 million years old and 110 feet underground.
COOL INFO! Chicago is PERFECT for extreme supertalls back track to its roots!
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That answers my question. Thanks.
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Shots from today. It looks like they are basically sweeping across the site.



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Yep, good progress!
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Old November 22nd, 2006, 02:16 AM   #58
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Question. Has there been any talk or concern about the fact that this building will sit on a fill area. I realize that Chicago isn't exactly earthquake central, but with a major faultline just a few hundred miles away, it seems like you wouldn't want to take any chances. Just curious.
Although uber already did a good job answering this question - I'll just remind you that basically everything east of Michigan Avenue is fill (including plenty of buildings that will probably have the same dead load as the Spire will).
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Exactly - so if we ever DO have a major earthquake on the New Madrid Fault Line, ALL of Streeterville is screwed.
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Exactly - so if we ever DO have a major earthquake on the New Madrid Fault Line, ALL of Streeterville is screwed.
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