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Old July 1st, 2008, 09:50 PM   #6581
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Yawn... please go away!
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 02:06 AM   #6582
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new update video online!

Hiya fans and friends,

here comes a new video update for the awesome Spire for you all to enjoy :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdzFp4X6GEw

Music: Megara vs. DJ Lee - Full Intention (Club Mix)
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 06:08 PM   #6583
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What an excellent view one must get from those houses!! Although to some, having a massive construction site next door is detrimental, I'd gladly move in.
The Pimp from "SSP" is selling his house next door to the Spire. He's moving do to the construction. All it takes is a cool million plus.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 01:23 AM   #6584
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....are we ready to stick a fork in this one yet?
Yesterday, on the radio, I heard that over 30% of the units are already sold.
What is your beef?

Whether you like it or not, this building is going to be completed
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 02:49 AM   #6585
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i 100% hope it gets built and that they'll find enough buyers worldwide to sell out. it will raise the bar in residential architecture in this P & H and lowenberg lowest common denominator city once and for all. i'm still a little suspect though because left & right, experienced chicago developers with a track record in this city and marketplace have commented to me this project is iffy at best especially in this current financial market. i'm hoping the foreign investors are really going to come through in the end.

that being said...i also hope they finally give it a top....again..., because you have to judge architecture of this caliper- i.e., one that SAYS it's going to change the world in its ads- by what it IS, not how close it gets to what it could've been.

if this building was designed by someone named joey calatrava and not santiago calatrava, would you honestly be as excited by this CURRENT version? the original fordham version is still the best out of all of them.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 04:58 AM   #6586
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you really think the original version is best?

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Old July 3rd, 2008, 05:59 AM   #6587
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i really think it is. the striations along the sides are more restrained (there's less of them) but project much deeper towards the core. their plan sections change as they rise as well, ultimately flattening out and becoming coplanar at the spire/antenna base.

overall, the building feels less static to me. i think the best part of the current design is the base. imagine that base on this tower....it just seems more like a completed architectural thought to me. but again, it's just my opinion. =)
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 06:44 AM   #6588
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 08:20 AM   #6589
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The Pimp from "SSP" is selling his house next door to the Spire. He's moving do to the construction. All it takes is a cool million plus.
Haha, sorry, too poor!!

Thanks for the update
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Old July 4th, 2008, 07:36 PM   #6590
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July 02 - Lunch

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Old July 4th, 2008, 09:29 PM   #6591
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I don't venture into this territory often but I just want to say well done Chicago on getting such a forward thinking and wonderful skyscraper.

If only we could build this in Canary Wharf, without the damn height restrictions.
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Old July 4th, 2008, 09:31 PM   #6592
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i 100% hope it gets built and that they'll find enough buyers worldwide to sell out. it will raise the bar in residential architecture in this P & H and lowenberg lowest common denominator city once and for all. i'm still a little suspect though because left & right, experienced chicago developers with a track record in this city and marketplace have commented to me this project is iffy at best especially in this current financial market. i'm hoping the foreign investors are really going to come through in the end.

that being said...i also hope they finally give it a top....again..., because you have to judge architecture of this caliper- i.e., one that SAYS it's going to change the world in its ads- by what it IS, not how close it gets to what it could've been.

if this building was designed by someone named joey calatrava and not santiago calatrava, would you honestly be as excited by this CURRENT version? the original fordham version is still the best out of all of them.
I wonder who the experienced developers you talked to are? Because it's obvious to me that the lack the balls, capital, will, and know how to even attempt a project of this magnitude.

Of course the market is iffy, why do you think Kelleher took this project on a world tour? His health?

The top is fine, it doesn't need a damn flagpole or spire to acomplish it's height goal or to be the exclamation point of the design.

If someone named Joey Calatrava had designed it, I feel we would all be just as excited as we are. Many of us aren't looking looking at a name in order to judge the tower, we're looking at the design itself. If Loewenberg himself has designed this tower (not that he has the artistic capability) we'd be praising it.
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Old July 4th, 2008, 09:57 PM   #6593
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I don't understand why all the bashing on people when they express their opinion. Isn't what a forum is for?
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Old July 4th, 2008, 10:16 PM   #6594
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Old July 4th, 2008, 11:39 PM   #6595
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WOW im glad, i pass through there once and wondered what was that hol
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Old July 4th, 2008, 11:47 PM   #6596
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I'm pretty certain that hole reaches the earth's core.
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Old July 5th, 2008, 03:49 AM   #6597
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I don't understand why all the bashing on people when they express their opinion. Isn't what a forum is for?
welcome to the forum. you are absolutely right. people are allowed to express any opinion they want. and others are allowed to give an opinion on that opinion

you'll notice a trend with yawn's posts. he consistently says buildings like trump and 1 museum park are ugly, and the spire wont get built, blah blah blah. bottom line, is these buildings are not ugly. and if one thinks that, then they really cant appreciate skyscrapers....as most of us do around here. and whats annoying is that he claims to almost be some authority on what a good building should look like.
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Old July 5th, 2008, 04:15 AM   #6598
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i've always said that i was surprised as to how much i ended up liking the sculptural quality of trump's building and i have repeatedly used it as a specific benchmark for not liking 1 museum park, a highrise that appears to only attempt to look good from certain angles.

i also don't like aqua because as i've mentioned before, it is a facade-ectomy of a jim lowenberg building ordered by the city's planning department for the last lakeshore east pad. jeanne gang's husband mark is the real brains of the operation and i wish he was allowed to take more credit for it.

the spire is a great opportunity for this city to make a next step architecturally, but in a world where developers can't even make a 200 unit building work in this current market, i often point out that a lot of people i know who are authorities don't really know what to make out of kelleher, a man who left chicago as a painting contractor and returns a few years later as a renowned developer.

the best high rise in the city is contemporaine and i hold that as my current favorite of the new breed.

i joined this site not to make friends or maintain friendships. i wanted to find a place to talk to professionals but also ordinary people about chicago architecture. when one works in this business for over 35 years, one can often get stagnant in his tastes. a board like this is a great chance to stay current. that's why i joined. that's why despite a brief self-imposed break from it, i'll continue to voice my opinion.

welcome netgeek77. looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
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Old July 5th, 2008, 06:03 AM   #6599
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I like the original design as well. It looks classier and more contemporary. The antenna creates an illusion that it gets slimmer on top, thus feels more complete. In contrast, aside being too phallic, the current design looks like a braided bread from certain pictures.

With that being said, I still like the current design and hope that it gets built, not just because I have a bet with a friend but I think it would add a very distinguish flavor to Chicago architecture along the river.

By the way, how do you post images here?
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Old July 5th, 2008, 03:14 PM   #6600
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even deeper, they came out on the other side of the earth already!
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