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Old July 30th, 2008, 07:15 AM   #6881
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What's wrong with the lake? Navy Pier, sailboats, Olive Park, Oak Street Beach, heck, if you are high enough you can probably see Detroit's skyline!
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Old July 30th, 2008, 08:34 AM   #6882
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From SSP, thought it was worth posting here as well:

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It's exciting to see new progress -- especially something we haven't really seen before. I comped together HarryC's most recent images to show all the super caisson spots in one image. The second photo has overlays of what looks started/done (green) and still to do (blue).



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Old July 30th, 2008, 10:03 AM   #6883
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what's the next thing after 2 more of them around the perimeter? apart from more digging in the hole?
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Old July 30th, 2008, 12:41 PM   #6884
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do the outer rectangles take the outer skin on the tower , and how deep do they go please ?
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Old July 30th, 2008, 02:18 PM   #6885
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READ ALL ABOUT IT, CHICAGO SPIRE WILL NOT GROW OVER NIGHT, NEWS FOUND SHOCKING TO MANY ONLINE THREAD READERS, WILL TAKE MANY YEARS!
Many years!?
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Old July 30th, 2008, 02:39 PM   #6886
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do the outer rectangles take the outer skin on the tower , and how deep do they go please ?
Yes the load from the skin, and floors, will be on the outer 7 columns, The rectangles are where 2 11' dia caissons(1) are tied together, they go down 110' + to bedrock. In addition there are a large number of caissons, also going down to bedrock, in the bottom of the hole.

(1) Most quote these as 12' ( 4 Meter ) diameter but I am pretty sure the 12' dia tubes were caisson tops, with 11' dia caisson sleeves inside of them.
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Old July 30th, 2008, 03:50 PM   #6887
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Plus you might be able to look DOWN on the fireworks every Wed and Sat.

Lake views are a personal preference and considering how many condo buildings there are on Lake Shore Drive with only these views I am sure there are people who like them.

The Spire will also be able to see Michigan from certain heights.
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Old July 30th, 2008, 05:04 PM   #6888
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The thing I don't get about this building are the views that residents will have if their condo faces the lake. With so many of the floorplans only having one or two sections of window, and the fact that the condos are so high, won't that mean that these people will only be able to see blue lake and horizon??

For me, I wouldn't want to plunk down this kind of money to see... Lake Michigan. Will the east-facing condos be cheaper because of this?

I have read nearly all of the banter in this thread since its inception, but I don't remember anyone bringing this up.

Love the Spire, though!
^ Are you on crack? Lake Michigan is gorgeous! I'd take a lake view over anything else. Nothing but peace and tranquilty after a stressful day at work
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Old July 30th, 2008, 05:15 PM   #6889
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actually, a lake/city view is more "valuable" than a pure lake view because after the sun sets, all you see is basically blackness....at least that's what coldwell bankers swears by.
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Old July 30th, 2008, 06:27 PM   #6890
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I have no beef with Lake Michigan - it is a beautiful lake and it provides a wonderful setting for Chicago. I'm just surprised that members of a skyscraper forum would not be bothered by an all-lake view.... I would expect that from the guys over at the "Large Fresh-Water Body" forum.

I myself would FAR prefer a view of the beautiful man-made mountain range that is Chicago! And Helmet has a great point about the night-time blackness vs. the sparkly skyline.

Different strokes for different folks! I'm actually glad to hear that some people prefer lake views, gotta sell those units too!
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Old July 30th, 2008, 06:54 PM   #6891
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thanx harryc.
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Old July 30th, 2008, 11:43 PM   #6892
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i think you're going to find this board is less about discussing varying architectural opinions than it is about some individuals ganging up on the few people that put forth an opinion that the masses don't agree with.....or let me put it to you this way, if you never got pants'd and thrown into the jr. high girls locker room, then congrats...you've come to the right place. =)

welcome aboard, bro.

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Old July 31st, 2008, 02:13 AM   #6893
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I have no beef with Lake Michigan - it is a beautiful lake and it provides a wonderful setting for Chicago. I'm just surprised that members of a skyscraper forum would not be bothered by an all-lake view.... I would expect that from the guys over at the "Large Fresh-Water Body" forum.

I myself would FAR prefer a view of the beautiful man-made mountain range that is Chicago! And Helmet has a great point about the night-time blackness vs. the sparkly skyline.

Different strokes for different folks! I'm actually glad to hear that some people prefer lake views, gotta sell those units too!
I'm 100% with you on this. If I had my choice of units in the Spire, I'd prefer a south or west view. But it is complete personal preference. Looking out over a vast inland ocean is highly preferred for many people, just probably not us skyscraper fans.

IMO, it would be amazing (looking down on fireworks twice a week!) in the summer, but quite depressing in the winter.
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Old July 31st, 2008, 05:08 PM   #6894
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IMO, it would be amazing (looking down on fireworks twice a week!) in the summer, but quite depressing in the winter.
If the sales are as international as it seems they are aiming for, I wonder what % of occupants will even be in their units at any time during the winter.
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Old July 31st, 2008, 09:43 PM   #6895
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... at least that's what coldwell bankers swears by.
I'm curious as to what you mean by this? Have you verified that lake-view-only condos sell for less than their city-view counterparts? It would make sense to me.

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If I had my choice of units in the Spire, I'd prefer a south or west view.
North would be OK too - just not pure east. That's the thing that I like about the design of Lake Point Tower - all condos have a 270 degree view (this is an assumption - never been in it!). Other buildings have condos that only face one way, but have a balcony to increase the view. Not so with the Spire. Which is why I'm wondering if the view is factored into the pricing of the Spire units.
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Old July 31st, 2008, 10:21 PM   #6896
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condo value is obviously based on a lot of things: location, amenities, views, design....etc. but lake views will always demand more in the market place.

the reason i said "valuable" in quotes is because a lot of investors prefer a lake/city view to allow for a more diverse taste in their product types because the lake really does go away at night.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 12:03 AM   #6897
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From SSP, thought it was worth posting here as well:

T thought those green spots are already dug out?
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Old August 1st, 2008, 12:10 AM   #6898
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they are....hes just highlighting the last two large caissons that need to be dug out.
thats the blue area.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 12:34 AM   #6899
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Old August 1st, 2008, 04:30 AM   #6900
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