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Old August 23rd, 2008, 06:54 PM   #7221
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I've just made an interesting comparison between 10.02.2008 and 22.08.2008 pictures of the CS.
Half an year past and not much difference that's 100 pages back.

And then some other comparisons of other towers for that same period.
For example you can really make out a big difference in BD,TT,WFC and ICC even in Moscow Business center.
Yes I know most of these projects are above ground, yet I can't shake the feeling the CS is dragging its feet.

And they haven't even began to make the lower levels
What is it, financial problems, construction difficulties, too little work force,
I am starting to think that even FT will get done before this one

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Old August 23rd, 2008, 07:27 PM   #7222
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The report I read details the sales of all units in the downtown area. However, the company that puts it together is always behind in getting it out. This is the latest number they had for the report dated July 2008. The numbers were most likey submitted at the end of June or beginning of July. I think it is most likely more then that and they are just a little behind like always.
Recent number that have been quoted in the number of units sold for the Spire are from Jan 1 to June 1.

There are 3 months that haven't been reported.
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Old August 23rd, 2008, 07:46 PM   #7223
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Not this again...

-this is a huge project crammed into a small plot, making it hard for vehicles to move around. It's a few feet away from an apartment tower, right next to a highway, and right on the water front. Even WTC had several acres with which to work and whole streets separating it from surrounding plots.

-it's the foundation, arguably the most important part of any structure, so it will take a while

It took 10 years for WTC to get above grade. It takes years for any supertall building to get above grade - SWFC, ICC, IFC,
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Old August 23rd, 2008, 08:12 PM   #7224
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I've just made an interesting comparison between 10.02.2008 and 22.08.2008 pictures of the CS.
Half an year past and not much difference that's 100 pages back.

And then some other comparisons of other towers for that same period.
For example you can really make out a big difference in BD,TT,WFC and ICC even in Moscow Business center.
Yes I know most of these projects are above ground, yet I can't shake the feeling the CS is dragging its feet.

And they haven't even began to make the lower levels
What is it, financial problems, construction difficulties, too little work force,
I am starting to think that even FT will get done before this one
just wait a couple of months, then this tower will shoot up. just have some more patience. and i bet this tower will catch up to Ft fast.
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Old August 23rd, 2008, 08:32 PM   #7225
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Not this again...

-this is a huge project crammed into a small plot, making it hard for vehicles to move around. It's a few feet away from an apartment tower, right next to a highway, and right on the water front. Even WTC had several acres with which to work and whole streets separating it from surrounding plots.

-it's the foundation, arguably the most important part of any structure, so it will take a while

It took 10 years for WTC to get above grade. It takes years for any supertall building to get above grade - SWFC, ICC, IFC,
I thought there was an underground tunnel to connect the parking lot under the Spire to the highway next to it?
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Old August 23rd, 2008, 09:20 PM   #7226
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I've just made an interesting comparison between 10.02.2008 and 22.08.2008 pictures of the CS.
Half an year past and not much difference that's 100 pages back.

And then some other comparisons of other towers for that same period.
For example you can really make out a big difference in BD,TT,WFC and ICC even in Moscow Business center.
Yes I know most of these projects are above ground, yet I can't shake the feeling the CS is dragging its feet.

And they haven't even began to make the lower levels
What is it, financial problems, construction difficulties, too little work force,
I am starting to think that even FT will get done before this one
Think of it this way. If the core is deep enough that if you fell in it, you would die and have a very small chance of living, it takes a while to get it above ground.

Then you have to take into account that it is close to water so you have to be careful. Thee are also lots of things that they need to get done underground before they start building upwards.
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Old August 24th, 2008, 02:28 AM   #7227
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I've just made an interesting comparison between 10.02.2008 and 22.08.2008 pictures of the CS.
Half an year past and not much difference that's 100 pages back.

And then some other comparisons of other towers for that same period.
For example you can really make out a big difference in BD,TT,WFC and ICC even in Moscow Business center.
Yes I know most of these projects are above ground, yet I can't shake the feeling the CS is dragging its feet.

And they haven't even began to make the lower levels
What is it, financial problems, construction difficulties, too little work force,
I am starting to think that even FT will get done before this one


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Old August 24th, 2008, 02:35 AM   #7228
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I think the crane moved a bit...

There IT MOVED!!111 I'm telling you! Fascinating


Not a problem that it'll take a while, but i do agree that the enthusiasm here is a bit surprising, if not of questionable sincerity
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Old August 24th, 2008, 03:04 AM   #7229
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I think the crane moved a bit...

There IT MOVED!!111 I'm telling you! Fascinating


Not a problem that it'll take a while, but i do agree that the enthusiasm here is a bit surprising, if not of questionable sincerity
Well, there aren't many 150 storey skyscrapers under construction around the world are there now, let alone a Calatrava designed one
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Old August 24th, 2008, 03:34 AM   #7230
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its the only 150 storey skyscraper, other then the burj dubai which has more
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Old August 24th, 2008, 04:30 AM   #7231
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I thought there was an underground tunnel to connect the parking lot under the Spire to the highway next to it?
I'm not quite sure where you got that idea. The ramps for access to the adjacent highway have already been completed and can be seen in many of the pictures. There then will be ramps into the parking garage. That also will be access via the surface street between the other two condo buildings.
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Old August 24th, 2008, 06:37 AM   #7232
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I'm not quite sure where you got that idea. The ramps for access to the adjacent highway have already been completed and can be seen in many of the pictures. There then will be ramps into the parking garage. That also will be access via the surface street between the other two condo buildings.
There will not be access to the garage from East North Water street, only from lower LSD. I was able to see this on the model in the sales office and the sales rep assured me this was the case - though she wasn't certain how the bicycles would get down.

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This early sketch does show a connection, it was not there in the model when I saw it.

A few photos of the ramps
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Old August 24th, 2008, 07:45 AM   #7233
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmm nice building
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Old August 24th, 2008, 08:26 AM   #7234
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this building is tasty
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Old August 24th, 2008, 12:06 PM   #7235
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I think the crane moved a bit...

There IT MOVED!!111 I'm telling you! Fascinating


Not a problem that it'll take a while, but i do agree that the enthusiasm here is a bit surprising, if not of questionable sincerity


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1. Burj Dubai 688m-818 2,380,150 views
2. Chicago Spire 0m-610 1,796,733 views
3. World Financial Center 492m-492 1,630,393 views

If the interest towards CS is high now, imagine when it gets going.
But the figures are a bit surprising. Or is it just that the height of the buildings is in direct correlation to their popularity.
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Old August 24th, 2008, 12:07 PM   #7236
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmm nice building
Why does everybody keep saying nice building when all I see is a hole in the ground? How can it be nice if it's not built yet? Oh and the crane moved three feet to the right I think.
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Old August 24th, 2008, 12:48 PM   #7237
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the renders are looking nice
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And the test facade...anyone remember what page that was on?
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Old August 26th, 2008, 02:51 AM   #7240
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Must be a few people down in the hole


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